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I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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OP here. Thanks for the pos/neg/neutral comments everybody. Some remarks: Yes, there are a lot of browsers out there where I can contribute to which would be more efficient. But that would result in just a few browsers instead of a lot of browsers. I'm all for the last one, as this would give people options. This IS a pet project. I never told anyone otherwise. I would start writing it even when I wasn't fed up with…

Jaytaph, I really hope you can keep going and do something interesting with the work you learn from.

Reading someone else's codebase is very difficult because there's so much context and knowledge behind a web browser.

I have a very simple layout algorithm based on ORC Solver algorithm.

If you want to get to something that is useful you could implement rendering for simple HTML documents with

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Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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post #17

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https://xkcd.com/2730/

God I hate XKCD so much. It's a blight on the internet. I just get unreasonably angry whenever I see a link posted. This is just me venting.

Do you hate specificly the comic, or that people often post it, where it is not contributing to the discussion?

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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post #24

"Writing a browser" (from scratch) at this point basically means you are implementing a type of portable operating-system-in-a-box (the web platform) and that it will be compatible with whatever Google decides to add to theirs. The browser is so comprehensive in functionality and APIs, and such a challenge to keep up with Google's constant churn of new features and total dominance, that not even Microsoft could do it…

You're wrong about a few things. (1) A browser isn't an OS at all, it's a Javascript runtime and a constraint solver (to put all of the boxes in the right places per the CSS inputs). (2) Google doesn't constantly churn the web world anymore, they still do try, but it hasn't been effective for quite some time. (3) Microsoft was keeping up with web standards just fine, but they were falling behind in performance, and that's why they switched to Chromium.

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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post #80

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You never thought about the why and what for?

You unable to answer such a simple question?

Maybe you should rephrase your question and make it a bit more specific, because "and?" is a bit vague.

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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post #37
post #24

"Writing a browser" (from scratch) at this point basically means you are implementing a type of portable operating-system-in-a-box (the web platform) and that it will be compatible with whatever Google decides to add to theirs. The browser is so comprehensive in functionality and APIs, and such a challenge to keep up with Google's constant churn of new features and total dominance, that not even Microsoft could do it…

> and that it will be compatible with whatever Google decides to add to theirs There are plenty of respectable people who maintain "home pages" with much simpler HTML than what is possible, and news.ycombinator.com gets a lot of love for keeping its classic look. All this to say, I'd like if the people who have a lot of overlapping agreement on this would agree on a subset to use, and I'd be happy with a browser that…

I have a similar idea of a minimal html browser, which was dismissed by the gemini authors. Should be reasonably doable if you don't implement all web 2.0. No css - user decides appearance, no javascript - it would require full web 2.0 anyway, and a bit of webcompat, start with ,

, and there you go.

Re: I'm fed up with it, so I'm writing a browser

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post #70

I can relate. I have also stopped following the news, and almost all social media as well. I don't know if it is an age thing, or just the state of the world. But the past year, opening a news site have given me stress symptoms. And news sites love to feed it. Someone burns a koran? It is only news if it is reported. If someone does it in their basement alone, it would not matter at all. But instead it becomes a glob…

Plus all news are biased one way or another nowadays. It doesn't matter if you're left or right, the news you're getting is spun in a certain way to push whatever narrative your particular media outlet wants to push.

This, in combination with their incentive to make everything seem like a huge problem that might lead to the end of the world, is a pretty toxic combination.

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