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UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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Post by qingcharles »

zarzavat wrote: post #69
kulahan wrote: post #43

The bill makes sites prove they are committed to removing content: * promoting or facilitating suicide * promoting self-harm Serious question - how will this affect discussions around euthanasia? Can people just not discuss that online in the UK anymore?

“self-harm” is a broad category as well. A lot of things that people do are harmful to the self in some way. For harm to others we have the bright(er) line of consent, but for harm to oneself, who is to say?

Surely cramming french fries and soft drinks into your piehole all day is self-harm. Will they be banning McDonald's?

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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Post by dwroberts »

crtasm wrote: post #55
dwroberts wrote: post #50

Does anyone have a link to the full text of the bill? The House of Lords site only seems to list the amendments without context. I’m interested to know if it passed with the (ridiculous) requirement of a third party age verification service

I think it's the file dated 19 July 2023, plus the two amendment documents since then? https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3137/publications

Which isn’t the full text of the amended bill that has actually been accepted

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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Post by deafpolygon »

jimnotgym wrote: post #6

I don't know why the UK bothers to make new laws. It has no hope of enforcing them. The Police are mired in scandal and cut to the bone. The courts system is taking apart, with criminal barristers forced to strike for pay, courts closed and massive backlogs in both the criminal and civil branches. Prisons are full, and taking apart. A terrorist on remand escaped last week. What are they possibly going to do with yet…

Enforcement isn't the goal. It's to have a stick they can use to beat down people they want to target. The more sticks at their disposal, the better. And all of their rich and wealthy compatriots will avoid the brunt of this, as per usual.

Re: UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill

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Post by makingstuffs »

Nasrudith wrote: post #5
skilled wrote: post #2

Relevant, ORG warns of threat to privacy and free speech as Online Safety Bill is passed - https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/org-warns-of-... > Open Rights Group has warned that Online Safety Bill, which has been passed in parliament, will make us less secure by threatening our privacy and undermining our freedom of expression. This includes damaging the privacy and security of children and young people…

It seems that a lot of people idiotically think that what is best for the children is for them to live in a dystopia.

Looks like we all better start learning newspeak

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Post by kentrado »

jimnotgym wrote: post #45
gustavus wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You misunderstand. The NSA has collected massive amounts of data on everyone, they could easily solve many murders, burglaries and most other crimes. But they don't, in fact they don't event really stop terrorists. So why collect all this data? They do it so they have a massive backlog of information, so that when someone decides you need to be taken care of they no longer have to figure out something to pin on you,…

> You misunderstand. Nice, start with an insult! > they don't have to navigate around that pesky 4th Amendment. They got around that in the UK already by not having a 4th Amendment...or indeed a written constitution. > They do it so they have a massive backlog of information, This implies a level of competence I do not recognise in the UK government.

In which universe, is that an insult? You are assuming malice.

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Post by bratbag »

gorwell wrote: post #31
KaiserPro wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

different. The US government is designed to be inefficient and requires bipartisan agreement or a majority in both chambers to do stuff. The UK government has significantly more executive powers, far more than the president, and normally has a majority to pass things that can't be done by the excutive. the problem is that brexit and bad party leaders has been exceedingly disruptive and killed both the conservative an…

Populism is a response to corrupt and incompetent establishments. There's nothing competent to drive out by the time populism rears its head. It was already long gone.

Populism is taking advantage of discontent to persuade people to act against their own best intrests.

That discontent can be caused be anything. As long as a demagogue can lie about it and use it to kill rights and laws to empower themselves.

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Post by bratbag »

jjgreen wrote: post #64
switch007 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Our country is crumbling and people are starting to realise it’s the Tory’s fault. 13 years of Tory rule, cutting services to the bone and making themselves rich at our expense is seriously taking its toll. Councils are going bankrupt, schools are falling apart, public transport is in managed decline in a lot of areas, various sectors regularly going on strike, people can’t afford their bills, mortgages sky-rocketed,…

Labour has largely supported this -- one of the originators is Lorna Woods (University of Essex) who was an advisor to Blair.

The question was "why is the UK government in collapse"

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Post by concordDance »

toyg wrote: post #75
LightBug1 wrote: post #29

Yes ... because we've seen how well regulators have managed everything else in the UK ... Water? Energy? Everything else? Man, this is going to be fantastic ... The UK has an problem with regulation ... amongst everything else in this sh!thole.

That's because those regulations are written by people who despise regulations. They are meant to fail, so that eventually "the free market" (aka their rich friends) will get free reign, because "regulation clearly failed!".

Eh? That is definitely nor what's going on with this bill.
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