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Danish artist told to repay museum €67,000 after turning in blank canvasses

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Re: Danish artist told to repay museum €67,000 after turning in blank canvasses

#81

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Stealing 100k USD is a very significant crime, and I find it very ridiculous that you'd compare that to jaywalking. The criminal was not ordered to "just make art", but comissioned to make a specific piece requested by the gallery - in the form of a frame filled with said money. As such, this is no different than if you hired a carpenter to build you a house, paid upfront with contractual obligations, but the carpent…

No. The crime/contract angle is not the most important element here. It's just a club that one side of a dispute happens to have, so they get to win the fight with their bigger club. It doesn't make their argument the more valid one.

I'm glad the judge disagrees with your... Creative interpretion of contract and criminal law not being the "more valid argument".

Re: Danish artist told to repay museum €67,000 after turning in blank canvasses

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stealing 100k USD is a very significant crime, and I find it very ridiculous that you'd compare that to jaywalking. The criminal was not ordered to "just make art", but comissioned to make a specific piece requested by the gallery - in the form of a frame filled with said money. As such, this is no different than if you hired a carpenter to build you a house, paid upfront with contractual obligations, but the carpent…

They provided a similar (and vastly more popular) artwork and it was displayed. Even works that are not supposed to be creative works differ from the original order and courts often don't decide on a full refund if it provided utility. I find it kind of strange that they don't want to keep these talking points but I think the court should have decided what value they already got out of using them if they don't perman…

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Re: Danish artist told to repay museum €67,000 after turning in blank canvasses

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stealing 100k USD is a very significant crime, and I find it very ridiculous that you'd compare that to jaywalking. The criminal was not ordered to "just make art", but comissioned to make a specific piece requested by the gallery - in the form of a frame filled with said money. As such, this is no different than if you hired a carpenter to build you a house, paid upfront with contractual obligations, but the carpent…

They provided a similar (and vastly more popular) artwork and it was displayed. Even works that are not supposed to be creative works differ from the original order and courts often don't decide on a full refund if it provided utility. I find it kind of strange that they don't want to keep these talking points but I think the court should have decided what value they already got out of using them if they don't perman…

The court did decide that the artist could deduct ~6k USD as commission when returning the stolen money.

The limited traction they'd get from this story and empty frames would already have played out - that 100k USD can do more good as commission to other, actually skilled artists for future works than padding one greedy criminal's pockets...

Re: Danish artist told to repay museum €67,000 after turning in blank canvasses

#84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The crime/contract angle is not the most important element here. It's just a club that one side of a dispute happens to have, so they get to win the fight with their bigger club. It doesn't make their argument the more valid one.

I'm glad the judge disagrees with your... Creative interpretion of contract and criminal law not being the "more valid argument".

Yes yes, we got that. You are glad to let law not only defend but actually define right and wrong.

Well I have some news you may want to sit down for. Law is just a tool. A tool that was designed, manufactured, and finally wielded by people.

It gets worse. There is no such thing as any tool that was designed perfectly, or functions perfectly, or wielded perfectly.

We use it only because it's all we got and the best we can do. Chaos is worse. But all we got and the best we can do is actually quite garbage.

It's not worth your unthinking worship, and your unthinking worship does not make the world a better place.

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