A subtle detail from the article is that address prices peaked in 2021 at $60 and has steadily decreased to $35. Where does it go from here? Is this a proxy for the tech correction?
AWS IPv4 Estate Now Worth $4.5B
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#82Hopefully hosting providers putting an actual price on v4 usage will be the push that gets things rolling to v6.
I don't like this solution because it will cost me money and time to setup myself a modem that can handle properly ipv6 or switch to a more expensive provider. Send the bill to end users is not what should be done. All this ipv6 endeavour already cost me a lot of time learning and troubleshooting software, and sometimes realizing that some modems doesn't have a good ipv6 stack and the best solution is to turn it off.
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#83Hopefully hosting providers putting an actual price on v4 usage will be the push that gets things rolling to v6.
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#84Question for the networking folk here. How can the rest of us help move things over to ipv6?
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I actually went through this process with ARIN. So I can give you that perspective. It wasn't a big deal, the only minor concern I had was it felt like you're encouraged to sign up under a business entity. I had an LLC, so it was natural just to use that. I don't know what kind of vetting they do if you decide to use yourself as an organization though instead of a different legal entity. You need to provide justifica…
I'm curious if one were to be certain nation state and was happy being a completely isolated intranet, that they would just exit such arin or related associations and just create their own governing body of IP allocations? In such a case such an internet would be a completely separate internet right? I wonder if sanctions may ever apply to the internet itself and we may see a break up of the internet into regional in…
IMO we'll see this happen in our lifetimes.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't like this solution because it will cost me money and time to setup myself a modem that can handle properly ipv6 or switch to a more expensive provider. Send the bill to end users is not what should be done. All this ipv6 endeavour already cost me a lot of time learning and troubleshooting software, and sometimes realizing that some modems doesn't have a good ipv6 stack and the best solution is to turn it off.
Blame your ISP. IPv6 should have already been supported since the 2000s.
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Yeah, one example is Cloudflare and 1.1.1.1; though the story behind that is less about money and far more interesting. Apparently, APNIC had owned 1.1.1.1 for, basically, forever, but were never able to actually use it for anything because it caught so much garbage traffic. Cloudflare is one of only a handful of service providers that could announce the IP and handle the traffic; so in exchange for helping APNIC's r…
So, what happened to everything that expected 1.1.1.1 to error out and now is getting something? (not worried about them, just curious)
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So, what happened to everything that expected 1.1.1.1 to error out and now is getting something? (not worried about them, just curious)
Well, a lot of Cisco wireless engineers had to reconfigure their guest wifi captive portals.
To be honest I feel as bad for them as I do for Hamachi, when their (otherwise quite nice in that it was a spiritual predecessor to Tailscale!) overlay VPN service fell apart once 5.0.0.0/24 became publicly assigned.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't like this solution because it will cost me money and time to setup myself a modem that can handle properly ipv6 or switch to a more expensive provider. Send the bill to end users is not what should be done. All this ipv6 endeavour already cost me a lot of time learning and troubleshooting software, and sometimes realizing that some modems doesn't have a good ipv6 stack and the best solution is to turn it off.
Blame your ISP. IPv6 should have already been supported since the 2000s.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Go on...what are people paying then? More or less?
If you are willing to wait, you pay nothing. However, let's keep in mind that this evaluation is based on the private transfer market place for IPv4s not based on actual RIR costs. You must be an RIR member to hold IPs and there are membership dues that you must pay each year to maintain your allocation. Once you are a member of an RIR you just have to make a request and at least with ARIN that request and fulfillmen…