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Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

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I've given this a legitimate shot two times, both self-hosting and via a professional host and both times on I have massive streaming problems on a 1 gig connection. It, on paper, has competitive features to Plex but Plex streams almost as reliably as Netflix does.

I run it on my laptop, and when I want to watch a new episode of a TV show, or a movie, I search for it on 1337x.to, find the mp4 with the most seeders, copy the magnet link, paste it into Transmission and then press enter. Within half an hour, the file is in the folder where Jellyfin knows to look for it. Then I open Jellyfin on my phone and watch the content in bed. This works for me because I've never cared about…

Let me tell you of a little thing called Sonarr.

So instead of me having to go to find the magnet, and paste it in, this application monitors my shows, and when a new episode pops up, it picks up a release based on my criteria (quality, language, etc), sends it to qBittorrent, waits for the download, and puts it in a folder.

Radarr for movies, Bazarr for subs, Sonarr (mentioned above) for shows, and Prowlarr for search indexing.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#83

What is Plex, can someone explain what it is and how it works? I tried to figure it out from their website but didn't find much information on those topics. I don't have an account there, didn't have to sign in, just clicked on free movies and was able to stream a great movie in my browser entirely for free. Like, what?

Plex is a self hosted media center that has trimmings to allow you to stream to mobile devices and the web.

https://support.plex.tv/articles/200288286-what-is-plex/

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#84

What is Plex, can someone explain what it is and how it works? I tried to figure it out from their website but didn't find much information on those topics. I don't have an account there, didn't have to sign in, just clicked on free movies and was able to stream a great movie in my browser entirely for free. Like, what?

It is a personal media management application that has sprawled into offering streaming plugins. Thats it really. If you dont mind wrangling your metadata, it is a pretty fantastic way to stream your personal music or movie library.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#85

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I run it on my laptop, and when I want to watch a new episode of a TV show, or a movie, I search for it on 1337x.to, find the mp4 with the most seeders, copy the magnet link, paste it into Transmission and then press enter. Within half an hour, the file is in the folder where Jellyfin knows to look for it. Then I open Jellyfin on my phone and watch the content in bed. This works for me because I've never cared about…

Let me tell you of a little thing called Sonarr. So instead of me having to go to find the magnet, and paste it in, this application monitors my shows, and when a new episode pops up, it picks up a release based on my criteria (quality, language, etc), sends it to qBittorrent, waits for the download, and puts it in a folder. Radarr for movies, Bazarr for subs, Sonarr (mentioned above) for shows, and Prowlarr for sear…

Yeah, I've heard of it and it looks great. But it also means I need to maintain a media server (which costs me time and money, and is also a potential liability in terms of copyright mafia and script kiddies who find a vulnerability in it and end up on my network). One day I'll get around to building a proper setup, with automated deploys, isolated networking and secure hosting... but for now the least work is just downloading files one at a time when I need them, and otherwise just watching Netflix.

Frankly the motivation that will finally make me build this is that my mom is complaining about the streaming service fragmentation... each of her favorite shows is on a different service with its own $20/month subscription, and that's on top of the $100/month for cable. For now she's just password sharing, but when that stops working I'll get around to setting this up for her so I can manage it remotely. Or maybe by then the services will figure out they'd be better off just streaming everything free on the internet and splicing ads into the streams. You know, like TV...

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#86

https://jellyfin.org/

I've given this a legitimate shot two times, both self-hosting and via a professional host and both times on I have massive streaming problems on a 1 gig connection. It, on paper, has competitive features to Plex but Plex streams almost as reliably as Netflix does.

Same experience here. Could never get reliable playback.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#87
post #31

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I've given this a legitimate shot two times, both self-hosting and via a professional host and both times on I have massive streaming problems on a 1 gig connection. It, on paper, has competitive features to Plex but Plex streams almost as reliably as Netflix does.

I run Jellyfin on my home server, and this has been a problem for me as well. Even within my home network I'll have occasional stuttering while watching movies, despite the fact that I'm using a dedicated server with 128gb of RAM and 12 CPUs, with a 10 gigabit network card in a 10 gigabit switch, and I'll still get stuttering. I've debated moving to Plex but I'm broadly against running proprietary software on a serve…

Honestly, that sounds quite weird to me. I've been remotely running my instance with only 100Mb/s connection and it hasn't even struggled running 4K film. All this on a budget i3 9100. And I'm quite sure it should be able to run on even slower hardware if need be.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#88
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But Plex exists to share it with your friends which makes it piracy. It's their added value over something like Kodi.

sharing with friends isn't actually piracy. Where did you get that notion? You can invite friends over to watch a movie with you, you can lend a movie too. Copyright law has fuzzy carve outs for this.

Yeah but not whole libraries. At least not here in Europe. Not sure about US. But here sharing a movie is only allowed if you watch it together at home.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#89
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A setup that I can now heartily recommend (after using it for 6 months) is Apple TV 4k and the Infuse media app[0] It's able to find your movies and series on Samba shares (and probably other types of locations, too) and categorize, find subtitles, adjust audio and so on. This assumes you've already got your media somewhere of course (like a file server on your LAN), but I bet 99% of the HN crowd has a home server an…

If you're pirating content, you should retain complete control and security over your setup. How does Infuse enforce its yearly license cost? There must be some telemetry at the very least, which is exactly the issue that got Plex into this situation and why people would do well to avoid it (unless of course you're just watching your own legal copies of media).

There is likely telemetry - good point. I assume that such telemetry can be block if you are concerned.

Re: Plex announced to block instances on German hosting provider Hetzner

#90
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https://jellyfin.org/

A setup that I can now heartily recommend (after using it for 6 months) is Apple TV 4k and the Infuse media app[0] It's able to find your movies and series on Samba shares (and probably other types of locations, too) and categorize, find subtitles, adjust audio and so on. This assumes you've already got your media somewhere of course (like a file server on your LAN), but I bet 99% of the HN crowd has a home server an…

+1 for the Apple TV mention. I gave up and ordered one to use Infuse, might try out Swiftfin first though, for my Jellyfin setup. It’s always trade offs with the official Jellyfin clients, can’t get everything working 100% of the time with the same setup. I have an Android TV and keep having to switch between LibVLC and ExoPlayer depending on what I’m watching, not to mention the numerous bugs and clunkiness. Like for some reason I can’t wrap my head around, ExoPlayer Jellyfin can’t play ASS and has to transcode the whole file while ExoPlayer Plex can. When you seek before waiting for a previous seek to finish and start playing you end up with a broken stream where the local progress bar and time doesn’t correspond to what’s actually shown on screen. After trying Infuse on my phone, it seems exactly the kind of “just works” I’m looking for.
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