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iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by kalleboo »

scarface_74 wrote: post #37
kalleboo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is a very sad conclusion because Steve Jobs was very explicit that they had to cannibalize their own products or someone else would.

SJ said a lot of things. There is nothing courageous about cannibalizing an iPod that had an average selling price of $200 and a much smaller market with a phone that is three times more expensive

The context I was thinking of was the iPad. At the time it was really thought it was completely going to kneecap the portable Mac line (even Apple believed it and invested more in iPad development than Mac development). It was only after Jobs left our mortal coil that the iPad really stagnated in comparison to what the hardware itself was capable of.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by scarface_74 »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #76
scarface_74 wrote: post #72

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Wow, now we have to wait on legislators to set standards, in the hypothetical scenario, how long would it have taken them to move from Micro USB to USB C. I am so surprised that people are okay with letting slow moving legislators set technological directions.

Always a worst case scenario with you people. If the legislation denoted a review board then it could be as fast moving as need be.

Why would we ever think that the government moves slower than tech companies and is down right ignorant when it comes to technology and the trade offs and unintended consequences when it comes to technology?

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by tcmart14 »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #32
IggleSniggle wrote: post #18

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See also: cellular Apple Watch unable to make calls/texts without being tethered (over an Internet connection, remotely!) to an iPhone.

Are you certain? I'm fairly sure I've made calls with my Series 4 cellular when I know the linked iPhone is powered off.

I think the missing part from the person's post is not realizing there are variations of the watch. Some watches, like your, yea have cellular. I've got the 2nd gen Apple watch SE and I can't make calls off of it.

Although, interesting to know you had it on the series 4. I thought it was only on the newer series 8 and ultra, but I also just got my first apple watch about 4 months ago.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by nsonha »

edgyquant wrote: post #30
nsonha wrote: post #19

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The problem is having too many devices. Most people should just need a phone that can also serve as a personal computer. A personal laptop is a hassle, remember we already have a work computer provided by our employers

> remember we already have a work computer provided by our employers What a ridiculous and privileged thing to say. Most people do not, in fact, have a computer provided by their employer.

Even if they don't they shouldn't be forced to choose between buying yet another computer they rarely use and doing personal things on a laptop where they also do important works.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by bloppe »

BrentOzar wrote: post #7

If Apple wanted to make the iPhone a computer replacement, and all that was holding them back was USB-C, they would have added it in a long time ago. They didn’t. They waited until the EU made them switch to USB-C.

I would argue their main motivation for keeping iOS separate from MacOS is that it's much more locked down. If they were to try to merge the two, they would either have to give up a sizeable portion of revenue from their app store and advertising monopolies on iOS, or handicap MacOS making it much less competitive with laptops that actually treat you like the owner of your own hardware. But if the EU is successful at tearing down a few more of the iOS garden walls, Apple may start to think convergence is a good idea.

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Post by rffn »

bgoggin wrote: post #79
rffn wrote: post #9

Apple would cannibalize their computer and iPad sales if they were supporting the thin client model like Samsung DeX. See how they already avoid cannibalization of the iPhone business by preventing the iPad to make phone calls. They protect their product lines from each other. As much as I like to see such a feature, I don’t think Apple will ever give it to us.

Seriously? Your claim is that Apple is afraid being able to make calls on an iPad would cannibalize iPhone sales? You think this is what's preventing people from walking around talking on iPads? Apple prevented calls on iPads so that AT&T would offer a cheaper cellular plan for iPads. Apple completely cannibalized their iPod business with the iPhone. They have proven over and over that they will cannibalize their own…

Network operators could offer cheap data plans without allowing voice over them. Works for the Samsung S-Series tablets. Data is cheap, phone calls are disabled or charged separately.

For some users (e.g. elderly) an iPad with its large screen would make a better phone. They don't walk around talking (anymore). Also when wearing headphones, there is no need to lift the phone to the ear. Same goes talking to the watch.

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Post by rffn »

pmx wrote: post #35
criddell wrote: post #22

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I don't know what DeX is, but if by thin client you mean the computer is somewhere else then I would say that doesn't sound like Apple at all. Apple is the last company that seems to still believe in personal computers on the desk.

I think they're using the term thin client incorrectly in the article. While it obviously means a low power terminal that connects to a remote server, they're using it to mean compute that you carry around and connect it to any monitor and input devices that you happen across. Dex is samsung's implementation of this and it works very well indeed.

Yes, I was using the term thin client as they did in the article. DeX actually tries to make the phone the only computer one needs. Just connect a screen and either use the phone as keyboard/mouse or connect a physical device.

This might be even more interesting with Samsung TVs which allow wireless DeX. Have not seen this in action though.

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by behnamoh »

I hope the EU presses Apple to adopt other standards as well. (e.g., file format. It's ridiculous that you can't just drag and drop a picture from your photos library as a Gmail attachment because the format would be HEIC).

Re: iPhone 15’s shift to USB-C

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Post by sahin »

I believe that with the iPhone 15 adopting USB-C, it will pave the way for a more streamlined integration of USB-C power adapters across almost all electronic categories. The shift towards USB-C as the go-to power and data connector for a plethora of electronic devices has been on the rise in recent years.

We will have one cable for so many things. Finally....

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