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Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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Linux groups like this are an absolute joke at this point - it's beyond a circus of political / virtue signaling that's metastasized to a point that it's basically a net negative to anyone actually trying to contribute or learn...

I miss the early 2000's when hacker culture / defcon culture etc could exist on its on merits and wasn't coded by race, gender, politics or orientation...

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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I can see how people empathize with that but on the flip side I've known plenty of immigrants who went through the process the right way, waited months or years, gone through naturalization process and did the same to get get their families here. They, along with others still in line feel cheated by the people entering illegally / abusing the asylum claim systems. If you're escaping a bad situation in a central or so…

That's just hazing bullshit, "I went through this misery so you must, too!". You fix it by making the legal route less awful, not by intentionally inflicting even more suffering.

It won't be politically possible to change much of anything about the legal immigration system until we stop the ~200K[1] of people illegally coming across the border every month.

The minute you announce some kind of concession for people already here (which would most definitely be part of a broader immigration reform bill) then the floodgates will open with people trying to make it in before the effective date.

[1] https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/southwest-land-border-enc...

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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We can see this right now with the Ukraine invasion. The 'peace' side is advocating giving Putin whatever he wants.

Exactly. If NATO countries maintained cold war weapons and ammo stockpiles, the war would already be lost for russia. Instead we got unilateral demilitarization .

Ukraine disarmed their nuclear stockpile. Obviously Russia wouldn’t have invaded otherwise.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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Exactly. If NATO countries maintained cold war weapons and ammo stockpiles, the war would already be lost for russia. Instead we got unilateral demilitarization .

Ukraine disarmed their nuclear stockpile. Obviously Russia wouldn’t have invaded otherwise.

Sure, and that's a lesson for all other nuclear and potentially nuclear states.

Ukraine as part of disarmament treaties even send russia Kh-55 cruise missiles and Tu-160 strategic bombers that are now used against them.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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Would like to add some needed context (at least I think it's needed): * This started out because NixOS mastodon account posted on chaos.social local timeline which is rather German Mastodon instance with a strict no-military-content-without-content-warnings moderation policy. People got angry for NixOS posting about the sponsor there and started complaining en masse to drop it. I think most people complaining aren't…

A key aspect is that we discovered very late that TU Dresden has their own policies against military association that we weren't aware of. We would have had to fill in ton of paperwork, and potentially lose the place. This is what I tried to communicate to Anduril via email but it must have been lost in translation.

extremely disappointing that y’all needed the venue to impose this decision.

as said by a friend this morning:

> i, personally, would not accept money from the company actively militarizing the southern US border but that's just me

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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AI sentry towers on the US-Mexico border lends credence to Anduril's name from Lord of the Rings -- "the Flame of the West." This is completely unrelated, but if you like weapons with cool names (or are looking for names for your next defense-industry startup) the Tolkien legendarium has many! Angrist - the dagger that cut a Silmaril from Morgoth's iron crown. Means "Iron Cleaver" in Sindarin Dagmor - "dark-slayer",…

> AI sentry towers on the US-Mexico border lends credence to Anduril's name from Lord of the Rings -- "the Flame of the West." So they hijacked a name from Tolkien's works and the Tolkien estate did nothing about it? They threatened to sue TSR for using "hobbit" in D&D in the 70s [0], which prompted D&D authors to change the name to "halfling" and later on change their lore a bit. [0] https://www.museumofplay.org/blo…

Same goes with Palantir. No idea how the estate chooses what to go after.

"Hobbit" is rather central to the Tolkien brand; Palantir and Anduril are essentially props, so it could be that these were seen as less important instances of name-theivery.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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By controversial you mean that they are conservative. I'm not aware of anything they've done that is particularly controversial; furthermore, if the standard for controversial is that a person has donated money to political candidates and organizations that would make a huge portion of big tech figures controversial.

No that is not what I mean, I don't consider "being conservative" or donating money to any candidate to be controversial. For Palmer Luckey I'm referring to him personally holding a multi-million-dollar fundraiser for Donald Trump, and for Peter Thiel I'm referring to his opposition to democracy and women and poor people voting, among other things.

Running a fundraiser for Trump is not controversial even probably to plenty of liberals, and if you are referring to Thiel's 2009 essay, that is a very uncharitable and biased summary of what he is saying.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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I never suggested otherwise. Ideally zero people would be crossing this border illegally and then there would be no deaths, right? We should do everything possible to discourage this crossing. Adequate surveillance is a large part of that. If you are legitimately seeking asylum you can just walk up to any border crossing station and not risk your life. Edit: As far as the condition that we keep captured criminals in,…

Imo large parts of the southwest and CA benefit immensely from immigrant labor. Both in time-savings and $ (outsourcing upkeep, housework, child-care) which allow their population to consume more and pursue other opportunities. Also, would people pay 50% more, double or triple for fruit picked by Americans, meat packed by , those huge gardens and front yards maintained by, houses built by Americans. I think Florida a…

> Imo large parts of the southwest and CA benefit immensely from immigrant labor.

I don't see anyone arguing against immigration here. We are arguing against illegal immigration / obvious abuse of the asylum system.

If we can close the obvious holes in our border that are letting 200k people through a month, I'm very much in favor of granting more work visas to immigrants and starting the naturalization process.

Re: NixOS just dropped Anduril as a NixCon sponsor

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They dropped this company in anticipation of a future version of the CoC and sponsorship rules. Certainly, they have the right to define their rules, but they should revise the rules beforehand.

They’re not saying the company did anything wrong. Just deciding not to take their sponsorship money. I don’t think you should need to enact a new rule in order to decide not to accept money.

I don't think any non profit should ever refuse money. If they make money from something you disagree with, then taking that money and using it in the scope of your non-profit (which you agree with) is a moral imperative
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