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Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard

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Post by llamaimperative »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #68
egypturnash wrote: post #65

This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it's made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes. I want more keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don't have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a coup…

> I want more keys . I want my dedicated f-keys back... This is my issue as well. I want a "normal" keyboard, only ergonomic, split, with all the fancy joint happiness that brings. It seems these are impossible to find without some kind of 3d printing and DIY from scratch. I am not able to invest in learning a new keyboarding process because I have to work on too many different computers over a year span that I have…

FWIW I have a fairly wacky keyboard (36-key Corne) that uses lots of clever layering to hit different symbols. It took a bit to learn as my daily driver but 1) it's awesome to have all your keys so accessible to the home row, and 2) I haven't experienced any degradation in my muscle memory of normal keyboards, and I only use a normal keyboard (like my MBP) maybe a few times per month.

Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard

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Post by k2enemy »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #68
egypturnash wrote: post #65

This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it's made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes. I want more keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don't have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a coup…

> I want more keys . I want my dedicated f-keys back... This is my issue as well. I want a "normal" keyboard, only ergonomic, split, with all the fancy joint happiness that brings. It seems these are impossible to find without some kind of 3d printing and DIY from scratch. I am not able to invest in learning a new keyboarding process because I have to work on too many different computers over a year span that I have…

I could not agree more. What I would love is the Microsoft sculpt keyboard but with low profile mechanical switches and a wired connection.

The closest I've found is the Perixx PERIBOARD which I have not yet tried in person. If anyone has other suggestions, it would be much appreciated.

Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard

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Post by rgoulter »

lq0000 wrote: post #75

The layout is eerily similar to one I designed last year [1]. I may be biased, but I'm not sure if it is worth the $365 price point. That being said, it is a bit more refined and has some nice accessories bundled. I may pick one up for comparison. But, just noting that there is a comparable open source design available. ;) [1] https://github.com/eggsworks/egg58

$365 does seem pretty steep.

But budget options pretty much demand a variety of skills.

DIY boards require soldering, and flashing firmware to the microcontrollers. If a mistake is made when soldering, this can be very difficult to diagnose, and harder to fix. -- Paying someone else to solder is sometimes an option, but can be expensive, too.

Even with cheap boards from e.g. AliExpress, you still might have to be familiar with flashing firmware.

For someone with more time than money, DIY is a good option.

With ZSA, I feel I can at least recommend a reputable brand; I'm not sure I can recommend DIY assembly to most people.

Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard

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Post by Pet_Ant »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #68
egypturnash wrote: post #65

This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it's made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes. I want more keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don't have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a coup…

> I want more keys . I want my dedicated f-keys back... This is my issue as well. I want a "normal" keyboard, only ergonomic, split, with all the fancy joint happiness that brings. It seems these are impossible to find without some kind of 3d printing and DIY from scratch. I am not able to invest in learning a new keyboarding process because I have to work on too many different computers over a year span that I have…

If you want to go the DIY route there is https://wylderbuilds.com/shop/p/dactyl-manuform-resin-print which offers a 6x7 option

Can see the options here: https://wylderbuilds.com/all-sizes

Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard

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Post by tadfisher »

egypturnash wrote: post #65

This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it's made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes. I want more keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don't have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a coup…

I made a low-profile split keyboard (with Bluetooth) based on the Moonlander layout, but a bit more ergonomic for my fingers: https://github.com/tadfisher/nyx-kb

I think this number of keys in this layout strikes a good balance between portability and usability.

Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

egypturnash wrote: post #65

This is lovely and kind of tempting but, like every keyboard-nerd keyboard, it's made by and for someone who wants the smallest possible number of keys in front of them and a bunch of toggleable modes. I want more keys. I want my dedicated f-keys back so that when I launch an action in Illustrator I don't have to hold down the fn key, along with whatever other modifier key I may be using to distinguish between a coup…

Hey we’ll be releasing an open source keyboard that has an ergonomic layout and is about 75-80% size (arrows + F-row and macro row)

Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard

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Post by rcarr »

shivekkhurana wrote: post #14

If anyone from ZSA is here, please make wireless keyboards. I’m rocking an Ergodox for the past few years. It’s worth every penny, but I cannot carry it around with all the cables.

If you buy a bt-500 from handheld scientific you can hook up to a powerbank and use it semi wirelessly. You’ve still got a cable going to the powerbank and adapter but at least you don’t have to run a cable to the laptop.

Alternatively keebmaker sell wireless cornes and Ferris sweeps - you’re best off getting the sweep because the leds on the Corne drain the battery life even when they’re switched off.

Re: ZSA Voyager: Low profile split keyboard

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Post by cjohnson318 »

frutiger wrote: post #77
cjohnson318 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Going over expenses together with your partner is important. If you don't have a partner, then you can spend money on whatever you want; you're only going to impact yourself.

Unless GP is close to destitute, bickering over spending $400 on their primary tool that presumably keeps them gainfully employed is the literal definition of micromanagement. I do have a partner and she has autonomy over the money we earn together as do I, because we trust each other to make reasonable decisions.

I have one of these fancy keyboards. It is not the "primary tool that keeps me gainfully employed".
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