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Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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"it has recently been netting around $250,000 a day from the game — that’s after Apple takes its 30 percent cut." $7.5 million a month at the very beginning of their hockey stick growth, and they are willing to sell for $200 million? Deal of the century for Zynga... They should have leveraged this into a massive funding round and started making acquisitions, growing etc. Nobody is ever going to compete with Zynga if…

A cowardly decision? Do you have any idea how stressful it is running a team of 30 employees and tens of millions of dollars in financing and not having a clear path to turn it into a successful company? OMGPOP made great video games for 5 years and none of them stuck. They deserve recognition for sticking to their vision and eventually finding one that is a hit, I can totally imagine why the team wants to sell and n…

What the hell is "Games List?"

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If a company has an IPO, there are no "employee retention payments", so it's better than that :) The reverse split of common before preferred share conversions for IPO are often a big screw to the employees. Many are also unaware of it, as they don't dig through the S-1. (Atheros was the largest one I saw in this camp.)

Reverse split doesn't screw employees, it just changes the math (10000 shares at $1/share is no better than 1000 shares at $10/share).

> Reverse split doesn't screw employees

It absolutely screws the employees when the common is reverse split, but the preferred-to-common conversion factor remains the same.

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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That rivals the Heroku for the biggest YC exit so far! (Heroku was ~$212million) OMGPOP would slot in at #2. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkkhSN3vaY4jdF9... This likely means YC gets about $3-5million out of the deal, funding even more startups in the future. :) (edit: Originally wrote Flightcaster for some reason; meant Heroku. Was thinking of Flightcaster earlier today and got confused.)

> This likely means YC gets about $3-5million out of the deal, funding even more startups in the future. :) I'm fairly sure that YC doesn't recycle the money off from wins, but instead returns it to their investors. YC is a for-profit fund that uses other people's money to give about $20k cash and $20k of training in exchange for 6% of their company.

do you have evidence? traditional vc funds don't recycle their money, but yc is not a traditional vc fund

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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I don't understand Zynga's strategy. Are they trying to establish themselves as the De Beers of mobile gaming? This seems like an unsustainable strategy. If they just buy out every gaming company as it begins to exhibit growth at insane valuations, they are going to run out of money. There are virtually no barriers to entry in the market, and there is no point at which there will be no emerging competitors. This is n…

It seems like they are hedging against allowing the mega gaming companies (EA etc) from getting too much of a foothold in the mobile / social space.

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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amazing. everyone i know loves draw something. congratulations.

I think it's got a winning formula, whether or not it was intentional or an accident I don't know, but it does so many things right. It caters to casual players (I can pick it up, guess, draw and put it down) or hardcore players (draw + guess all day and all night), it forces people to provide value back to the player they're against (after guessing you have to draw to play another game) and it has a good micro trans…

What I like about is that everyone wins. Both & the person you are playing with get a reward (coins) for a successful guess. There's no cheating to worry about, no sore losers/winners, etc.

Also, having a little bit of coins may or may not entice you to get more (which means bugging more friends to play, or busting out the wallet).

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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Kind of sad. I mean, congratulations to OMGPOP, but I'd really like to see a decent competitor to Zynga out there. Their games are slow, buggy and overly instrusive, but no other company has the kind of traction they do. OMGPOP could have taken the hard route and built themselves up from the success of Draw Something. Oh well.

Really sad actually. The only reason why Zynga bought them is because Draw Something is so high profile, that there was no way Zynga could steal it. As I said over on Quora, this really sucks as Zynga is a despicable company. Surely, the folks at OMGPOP had been worried that Zynga would try to steal this game, as they have done every one else -- and I would be interested to know what they thought of Pincus' character…

I hate Zynga games because of how buggy and slow they are.

But it's not like Zynga doesn't add value. The examples I've seen of Zynga copying the base of other games also have them making significant adaptations to better fit the market. Zynga really understands the market a lot better than many of the little guys, and they add lots of value to lots of users that way. I'm curious if there are counterexamples.

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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Kind of sad. I mean, congratulations to OMGPOP, but I'd really like to see a decent competitor to Zynga out there. Their games are slow, buggy and overly instrusive, but no other company has the kind of traction they do. OMGPOP could have taken the hard route and built themselves up from the success of Draw Something. Oh well.

Seriously ? Been losing money for 5 years. Got one hit that makes money (not $200M money) and they sell.

Excellent choice by OMGPOP

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So many great companies and so many early exits. Great for the VC's and angels - bad for the founders and early employees. And the users. Imagine if Heroku, reddit and others had stayed independent. Facebook got this part right. Reject buyout offers and use them to raise capital at ever increasing obscene valuations - and build your product exactly as you want.

All this says to me is that YC does not directly fund Googles and Facebooks. This is still very good for the founders. They can take their exit money and self-fund whatever they want.

The biggest companies in the YC portfolio are independent and getting bigger all the time. It still remains to be seen whether a Facebook or Google will come out of YC.

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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"it has recently been netting around $250,000 a day from the game — that’s after Apple takes its 30 percent cut." $7.5 million a month at the very beginning of their hockey stick growth, and they are willing to sell for $200 million? Deal of the century for Zynga... They should have leveraged this into a massive funding round and started making acquisitions, growing etc. Nobody is ever going to compete with Zynga if…

A cowardly decision? Do you have any idea how stressful it is running a team of 30 employees and tens of millions of dollars in financing and not having a clear path to turn it into a successful company? OMGPOP made great video games for 5 years and none of them stuck. They deserve recognition for sticking to their vision and eventually finding one that is a hit, I can totally imagine why the team wants to sell and n…

What the hell is "Games List?"

Re: Looks Like Zynga Just Bought OMGPOP For $200 Million

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This likely means YC gets about $3-5million out of the deal, funding even more startups in the future. :) I'm fairly sure that YC doesn't recycle the money off from wins, but instead returns it to their investors. YC is a for-profit fund that uses other people's money to give about $20k cash and $20k of training in exchange for 6% of their company.

do you have evidence? traditional vc funds don't recycle their money, but yc is not a traditional vc fund

YC raised an $8.25m fund in 2010, and the investors care about IRR and liquidity.
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