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Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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I don't understand how this is a "cool animation". In both Chrome and Firefox it does nothing by default. Pressing up or down moves the page by a single (useless) frame. Pressing page up or page down moves it by some random number of frames. Again totally useless, since it often ends up in a middle of some fade-in or fade-out. The scroll wheel is no better. Nor the scroll bar. What am I missing?

The content might be interesting, but it's impossible to tell since this might be the worst way of presenting data I've seen this year. Which is quite an achievement, congratulations :-)

Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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I sort of disagree. I've seen Primer several times, and am a fan of the movie, but I get the feeling that the writers purposefully made the movie confusing just for the sake of being confusing. The complexity doesn't seem to arise organically out of the plotline. A lot of the confusion is generated out of not hearing the one time in the movie someone explained something, or from the movie not explaining something tha…

That is a good point. One of the things I loved, though, is that the characters don’t bother to mention things they already know, or explain things they already understand. They say real things like “um” and “y’know” and “could you hand me the…no, the other—yeah, thanks”. This is undoubtedly a major source of confusion, but it serves less to increase complexity than to convey a sense of the characters’ relationship.…

I too very much like the dialogue in Primer for that 'eavesdropping on people who know each other well' feeling it has.

Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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The reason there are two passages through what seem to be limbo is that Inception is Christian allegory. If you look at the structure of the film you can see Nolan using the opening and closing heist sequences as allegorical bookends to demonstrate Cobb's character development. In the first Cobb is a faithless and money-oriented thief who embraces violence and selfishly abandons his team when this fails ("every man f…

This is post-rationalization if I've ever seen it.

Any act of film/literary analysis obviously requires thinking about something after you've seen/read it. The harder you think the better, and what you need to look for when evaluating arguments are evidence of internal consistency, plausibility and authorial design.

So where is the problem? Nolan himself has said in media interviews that the significance of the top is that Cobb walks away. He's also remarked on the centrality of creation imagery in the film and explicitly stated that "there's a relationship between the sand castle the kids are building on the beach in the beginning of the film and the buildings literally being eaten away by the subconscious and falling into the sea." Funny how he even specified the beginning of the film in that quote. No-one is post-rationalizing those words into his mouth.

Frankly, there's tremendous power to any interpretation that leads one independently to the same conclusions the director later makes, all the while explaining away what are inconsistencies under other readings (why Mal is bad, why the continual biblical references, why there is so much damn water in the dreams, etc. etc. etc.). The fact that Nolan is using fairly conventional symbolism (water = death/subconscious) is just icing on the cake.

Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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The reason there are two passages through what seem to be limbo is that Inception is Christian allegory. If you look at the structure of the film you can see Nolan using the opening and closing heist sequences as allegorical bookends to demonstrate Cobb's character development. In the first Cobb is a faithless and money-oriented thief who embraces violence and selfishly abandons his team when this fails ("every man f…

This is post-rationalization if I've ever seen it.

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Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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post #81

I don't understand how this is a "cool animation". In both Chrome and Firefox it does nothing by default. Pressing up or down moves the page by a single (useless) frame. Pressing page up or page down moves it by some random number of frames. Again totally useless, since it often ends up in a middle of some fade-in or fade-out. The scroll wheel is no better. Nor the scroll bar. What am I missing? The content might be…

"Space" mostly works here, although the frames don't come off well aligned.

Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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The reason there are two passages through what seem to be limbo is that Inception is Christian allegory. If you look at the structure of the film you can see Nolan using the opening and closing heist sequences as allegorical bookends to demonstrate Cobb's character development. In the first Cobb is a faithless and money-oriented thief who embraces violence and selfishly abandons his team when this fails ("every man f…

Good analysis. I think though that we can go a step forward. I agree that we all should look at it much more in a symbolic and metaphorical way than a logical way (there are several points in which the internal logic is severely weak). And exactly because of all the reasons you mentioned above, I've always considered the whole movie being representing something related to Cobbs. Cobbs is the one receiving the Incepti…

> It's interesting that Nolan used the name Cobb:

With the first name Dominick ("belonging to God") no less! Tons of this stuff in the script -- amazing that Nolan lost best original screenplay to The King's Speech. The mind boggles.

Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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This froze my entire computer (newish macbook pro) and and I had to restart. Also didnt have that much stuff open, anyone else?

little laggy in my firefox 11 on a 1.5G p4m with 512mb of ram. probably a just a bug.

Same here: only a bit laggy on FF10 on a 1.6GHz single-core CPU (2GB of RAM, though).

Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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Word of God is that this is not true and that the top level of reality was indeed reality. The camera panning away from the spinning top before it fell down was supposed to represent that Cobb is now dedicated to his children and no longer worried about whether it's reality, not a low-class cheap mindscrew about whether it's all a dream or not. Note that having the whole thing be a dream completely drains it of all i…

The cut away from the totem was simply the film's final inception: a seed of doubt in the viewer's mind.

IMHO the whole film IS an inception: it's planting the "wait what if MY LIFE is all a dream" idea in the viewer's mind.

Re: Inception Explained: a really cool scrolling animation of the plot

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>No, the plot of Inception really is very complicated, unless you're a computer programmer Or a carpenter. Or a secretary. ... chef, janitor, burgerflipper, librarian, bassist, cop.

Sigh. It's so exhausting to have to write bug-free prose. I apologize. Let's try that again. What I meant to say: Some people do not claim to understand Inception all that well. Some do. And some understand it so well that they go out of their way to publicly state their annoyance that everyone on earth doesn't see how obvious it all is. I venture to guess that computer programmers are disproportionally likely to be…

Don't worry, your explanation did sound perfectly reasonable and I have a feeling that the source of these downvotes are attempts to be holier than thou.
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