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Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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Post by silverpepsi »

Ntrails wrote: post #70
chii wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The assumption is that not many people would leave the room, close their eyes or mute the ads. If you created a painless, super easy way to remove all ads, i'm sure that TV channels will also find it hard to sell to advertisers, and thus, their revenue would decrease.

In my household growing up the ads were almost always muted as soon as the roll started. I always found it bizarre that other people did not do the same

My grandparents did that, it was one of the principle annoyances I had with visting them as a kid

It was very shocking to go from 75dB to an ambient 30dB or something like that out in the countryside. I'd have much preferred to talk over or zone out over the commercials without the suddenly shocking lack of auditory stimulus!

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Post by izacus »

rightbyte wrote: post #69
SergeAx wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The said ability also exists in a premium subscription. So what you effectively saying is that YouTube offers you a valuable feature, but you refuse to pay for it.

It is fair to not want pay enshittification tax to rent seekers. The said ability exists on the YT website if you use desktop mode on the mobile browser.

Asking you to pay for service costs and content is not rent seeking. That's not what that phrase means.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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Post by izacus »

SnorkelTan wrote: post #53
omnicognate wrote: post #29

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

People paid for cable and they still forced ads on people.

And YouTube doesn't. And you can stop paying when they do.

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Post by izacus »

Teever wrote: post #67
omnicognate wrote: post #29

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

That's a way to look at it, and another way to look at it is this: I already pay Google much more than I care to and am willing to in the form of my privacy and personal data because of the ubiquitious surveillance that Google performs on as many people as they possibly can. If I could cut Google out of my life I would do it in an instant, but I can't because they won't allow it. In lieu of that I take whatever I can…

If you could cut Google out easily, you wouldn't be using YouTube. Who are you lying to, yourself or us?

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Post by fulafel »

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs wrote: post #21
greyface- wrote: post #17

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> It does tend to get me profiled as a "bot" by CloudFlare Since Cloudflare employees are known to lurk here, I'd like to know: is this considered a false positive, or working as intended?

Not a CF employee but I am pretty sure it's working as intended as they built and use this: https://github.com/cloudflare/mitmengine

Here's hoping that, if they do it, they'll start blocking corporate TLS mitm regimes too.

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Post by veavo »

redrove wrote: post #18

>I propose heuristically scanning for query and path parameters of ad URLs with high entropy and using those as keys (fingerprints). > https://xn--rr6sn-uxa0n-t8gz-vg6i.googlevideo.com/initplayba... &orc=1&oeis=1&c=IOS&oss=1&oda=1&oad=5500&ovd=5500&oaad=11000&oavd=11000 &ocs=700&oputc=1&oses=1&ofpcc=1&osbr=1&osnz=1&msp=1&odeak=1&odepv=1 &osfc=1&id=58cc678216d6aaca&ip=121.35.98.26&initcwndbps=2125000 &mt=1640373902 Th…

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Post by hurril »

userbinator wrote: post #39
omnicognate wrote: post #29

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

I dislike the attitude of those who reject ads but also refuse to pay. How is this any different from changing the channel, leaving the room, or just hitting the mute button and closing your eyes in the scenario of "regular" TV when adverts or any other content you don't want to see appears? Compelled consumption should be illegal.

We need to differentiate a little more here. Instead of me having to watch another f*ing viagra ad, since I'm male and above 40, we should instead talk about substituting ads with getting actual fecal matter thrown at us. Your argument still applies. I should accept this because it is in my interest to support advertisers, since, really, I work for one. (In that I work for a private company that also pays for ads.)

Now before you dismiss this as childish and/ or obnoxious: please consider the point. We cannot gloss over _what_ we "have" to watch and not just that it's an ad.

It is true that things have to be paid for and I am 100% for this. But if you want me to basically degrade myself in order for me to get to watch your content, then wtf?

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Post by beirut_bootleg »

omnicognate wrote: post #29

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

> I dislike the attitude of those who reject ads but also refuse to pay

And I dislike YouTube's hostile ad escalation in recent years. One ad - fine, two ads - hmmm, three ads - what the hell. Unskippable ads. Inappropriate ads. Loud-ass eardrum ripping ads. Ads even on Premium.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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Post by mattigames »

userbinator wrote: post #76
mattigames wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that logic we shouldn't be even a allowed to look away or mute our sound when the ads are playing, after all if enough people did it it would be just as "damaging" as people with ad blockers. Also, YouTube is a video streaming monopoly, if it didn't exist there would be a significant chance of new streaming platforms to succeed, but given that it captured the marked such chance is unlikely to exist, monopoly that…

If the advertisers had their way unimpeded, we'd be in "drink verification can" territory now.

In case some people here don't know about that reference: https://old.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/1ggg4u/please_drink_...
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