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Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by mig39 »

arprocter wrote: post #78
toasteros wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed no pitchforks, but I can see where some concern has come from. On the release of Windows 11 it was stated that only newer Intel and AMD generations were to be officially supported and while workarounds are built in (literally a registry flag in the installer) to install on even a Pentium 4 [1], they came with a warning from Microsoft that installations in such environments "may not receive updates". Is it ther…

I see the buggy 'preview' updates offered on all my Windows 10 and 11 machines, and none of them are signed up for Insider

Preview means preview. It doesn't automatically download and install.

You have to actually opt in and download the preview. Then you'll be part of the preview :-)

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

whalesalad wrote: post #79
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If I needed all of those tools for my daily workflow I’d be on macOS without hesitation. And how do switch my existing PC from Windows to MacOS, without spending money to buy new proprietary HW in a locked-down unrepairable unupgradable ecosystem that comes with insane markups on RAM and storage? At least Linux, works with what I already have and doesn't require me to spend money on proprietary HW and then spend mor…

Why not both? I own a handful of Mac machines, have a server rack in my basement loaded with R720s, and a 13900k beast Debian workstation on my desk. I'll occassionally rotate to my couch or a coffee shop and thanks to the wonders of SSH and wireguard I can access the rack and my workstation from anywhere while still having incredible all-day battery life (M2 Macbook Air). vscode+remote-ssh+tailscale is a killer comb…

>Why not both?

Because money. Owning a wide variety of premium HW, especially Apple, is a rare privileged wealthy western position. Most people on the planet own something in the ballpark of a ~$200 Lenovo/Acer as their main machine, so telling them to just buy an Apple and a 13th gen homelab, is like telling them "let them eat cake", especially that due to taxes and tariffs, HW in other countries often costs way more than in the US, despite much MUCH lower wages.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by gambiting »

whalesalad wrote: post #34
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming. - Office - Adobe - Ableton - Visual Studio

[flagged]

>>Visual Studio as a developer for Windows apps is a different story… but then you have much bigger psychological issues I’m untrained to diagnose.

WTF are you on about. Games development for PS5/Xbox and Switch only works on Windows, that's where the entire toolchain for these platforms is. It's not just windows apps. I love how so many people on HN like to pretend that Visual Studio isn't the most powerful IDE around, it's a powerhouse for developers and you'd need to pry it out of my cold dead hands.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by fuzzfactor »

nehal3m wrote: post #23
kube-system wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linguistically, "might" could also mean "will under certain circumstances". It doesn't definitively imply they don't know. I myself have used "might" when speaking to customers when the criteria by which we would differentiate is something that isn't necessarily accessible to the audience.

Yeah I guess you're right. If that's the case I'd expect the journalist to ask some follow up questions to broadly define in which circumstances it would or wouldn't.

There's a recent Windows feature called Known Issue Rollback (KIR) that you would have to opt into using Group Policy, which might soon address an anticipated snafu like this, once it's become apparent after deployment:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-clien...

Here's last month's article from the same author giving an example of how KIR can be used to mitigate a video showstopper at the time:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fi...

My follow-up consisted of following the journalist back, and that might give an idea about what he had in mind.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by arprocter »

mig39 wrote: post #81
arprocter wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see the buggy 'preview' updates offered on all my Windows 10 and 11 machines, and none of them are signed up for Insider

Preview means preview. It doesn't automatically download and install. You have to actually opt in and download the preview. Then you'll be part of the preview :-)

10 does state "Optional" but 11 doesn't (although there is an x to dismiss it)

These always struck me as an odd middle ground between regular updates and Insider

fwiw my very 'unsupported' 11 Dell box seems okay with this update installed. All the Reddit folks getting the error are on Intel MSI boards

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by whalesalad »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #82
whalesalad wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not both? I own a handful of Mac machines, have a server rack in my basement loaded with R720s, and a 13900k beast Debian workstation on my desk. I'll occassionally rotate to my couch or a coffee shop and thanks to the wonders of SSH and wireguard I can access the rack and my workstation from anywhere while still having incredible all-day battery life (M2 Macbook Air). vscode+remote-ssh+tailscale is a killer comb…

>Why not both? Because money. Owning a wide variety of premium HW, especially Apple, is a rare privileged wealthy western position. Most people on the planet own something in the ballpark of a ~$200 Lenovo/Acer as their main machine, so telling them to just buy an Apple and a 13th gen homelab, is like telling them "let them eat cake", especially that due to taxes and tariffs, HW in other countries often costs way mor…

If you can afford a $1000 laptop, Apple is the way to go with an M1 Air (cheaper secondhand or with an education discount). If Apple hardware is unaffordable I would certainly opt for Linux.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by runjake »

toast0 wrote: post #28
runjake wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What edition of Windows 11 are you using? I hear this a lot about the online account requirement but on my versions (Pro and Enterprise) you just select “Domain Join” and it bypasses the online account requirement. My guess is that a lot of people are using the crappy Home edition.

> My guess is that a lot of people are using the crappy Home edition. What makes Home crappy? Other than the account thing, obviously. You can't join a domain with it either, but then most people don't have a domain at home. There's some other disabled features, like Hyper-V, but why should people have to pay for a higher tier Windows to use a local account if they don't need the other features?

- Hyper-V

- RDP

- Windows Sandbox (super neat and useful and under-appreciated!)

- BitLocker

- Active Directory

- Local accounts, apparently

- Various other little things and some local policies.

I use all of the above Pro-only stuff.

If my use of "crappy" offended you, please substitute the term "less-featureful".

Other than that, I didn't say what Microsoft should or shouldn't do for home users. That's on you.

It's my personal belief that multiple Windows 11 editions are insulting, and it should just be a single OS edition, with all features available, across the board.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by toasteros »

tw04 wrote: post #65
toasteros wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed no pitchforks, but I can see where some concern has come from. On the release of Windows 11 it was stated that only newer Intel and AMD generations were to be officially supported and while workarounds are built in (literally a registry flag in the installer) to install on even a Pentium 4 [1], they came with a warning from Microsoft that installations in such environments "may not receive updates". Is it ther…

> Is it therefore possible that this bug check is being implemented as part of the journey towards actually dropping "support" for these CPUs? That seems entirely possible. That being said, I'm not sure I'm going to be upset about them dropping support for a 20-year old CPU built on an architecture that I think is pretty widely accepted as a failure.

The Pentium 4 is an extreme example, and I admit I used it quite dishonestly to over-emphasise the fact that Windows 11 runs on CPUs that it claims not to support.

A 7th or 6th gen Intel would run Windows 11 quite well, unlike a Pentium 4 which struggles a great deal with it. Despite that, without workarounds, you cannot install Win 11 on one of these CPUs. You must have an 8th gen or later.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by hospitalJail »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #30
whalesalad wrote: post #11

My experience with Windows 11 has been roughly bug free - but it’s not a pleasant place to be. Installing is a nightmare too with the online account requirement. You can circumvent with a shell but still annoying. I’ve been much happier with Debian 12 and KDE for my primary workstation. I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming.

> I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming. - Office - Adobe - Ableton - Visual Studio

>- Office

>- Adobe

>- Ableton

>- Visual Studio

Find alternative software. If those companies aren't compatible on Linux, use one that is.

Make sure you send them an email explaining why you are canceling your subscription.

Re: New Windows updates cause UNSUPPORTED_PROCESSOR blue screens

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Post by nullindividual »

jonhohle wrote: post #42
whalesalad wrote: post #11

My experience with Windows 11 has been roughly bug free - but it’s not a pleasant place to be. Installing is a nightmare too with the online account requirement. You can circumvent with a shell but still annoying. I’ve been much happier with Debian 12 and KDE for my primary workstation. I can’t think of a compelling to use windows outside of gaming.

It’s somewhat ironic that Windows users used to call Macs “toy computers”. Now most deeply technical people are using Macs or at least Linux or BSD and Windows is relegated to games. It seems Windows is for toy computers ;-)

Windows runs the largest of enterprises. Very few go without at least Active Directory.
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