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Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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There haven't been any solid rulings on the copyright validity of human-driven AI generation yet. There have been a few cases, but they've been muddied by complicating factors (not a human doing the generation - that is, autonomous generation - or the generation being used as a base work for something else). Additionally, even if there's no copyright, the terms of service may still apply separately (see OpenAI disall…

> Additionally, even if there's no copyright, the terms of service may still apply separately (see OpenAI disallowing training a competitor model on output from OpenAI models) Aren't contract clauses that relate to the distribution of material preempted by the copyright act?

No. However contract clauses only apply to people who are actually parties to the contract.

For example you and I could enter into a contract for me to use AI to generate something that is not copyrightable from data you provide and give you a copy of that thing. There would in general be no legal problem if the contract included restrictions on what you could do with that thing, including restrictions on distributing it.

Part of the quid pro quo of a contract can be one party giving up a right to do something that they would normally have a right to do.

Now suppose the contract did allow you to make and distribute copies as part of your product. Someone else starts making copies of those copies you distributed and distributing those copies.

There is no contract between me and that person, so I would not be able to stop them. I've got no contract with them, and the thing is not copyrighted, so there's nothing that prevents them from copying it.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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If you refuse their tracking and marketing cookies it redirects you to google.com. Classy.

I'm surprised browsers don't offer something like Docker so that each site is isolated to its own virtual environment.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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I can count on one hand the number of ways these photos fail. That's right, 6 ways.

Count Rugen sees no problem with this.

Eh. On one hand, I guess it's no problem at all. But on the other hand...

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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If you're wondering how it's so fast and cheap and they can generate variants so easily, it's because they're using GANs (see the footer). GANs are way faster than diffusion models because they generate the image in a single forward pass and their true latent space encoding makes editing a breeze. (And if you're wondering how it can look so good when 'everyone knows GANs don't work because they're too unstable', a wi…

> If you're wondering how it's so fast and cheap and they can generate variants so easily

I assume its cheap because they are burning money to build a business, its not fast at all, and the quality... sucks.

> And if you're wondering how it can look so good

I’m not.

I'm wondering why they’re trying to get people to use something worse than using a decent photorealistic SD1.5-based checkpoint with some basic prompt templating.

Not saying GANs can't be awesome, just that this site isn't what I’d use to make that case.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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If you're wondering how it's so fast and cheap and they can generate variants so easily, it's because they're using GANs (see the footer). GANs are way faster than diffusion models because they generate the image in a single forward pass and their true latent space encoding makes editing a breeze. (And if you're wondering how it can look so good when 'everyone knows GANs don't work because they're too unstable', a wi…

>they're too unstable', a widespread myth

>See for example BigGAN

I remember when you try training a BigGAN model on anime images, the quality was bad. Now look at this example, one single GPU, 1.5M images with a diffusion model: https://medium.com/@enryu9000/anifusion-diffusion-models-for... ,the difference in quality is absurd, you can say this or that is not true but the quality speak for itself, obtaining good quality on complex distribution is much easier with a diffusion model than a GAN.

For example in the case of the site linked they have conditioned the model on poses because you're not going to get anything close to be coherent without them with a simple StyleGAN as they say they're using.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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We know about all of the potential harms that deepfakes can cause, the problems with inherent bias in training data, etc. Creating/publicising a tool that winks at these issues (consider the difference between the poses offered for 'male' and 'female' bodies) but does nothing to mitigate them - and a lot to enable them - is irresponsible at best.

It would be quite hard to make any AI tool that preemptively avoids the wide range of potential issues that you've mentioned. If tool makers are forced to always err on the side of caution, it's likely that the resulting tool ends up disappointing. Only when published, and when put into context of the entire work, could a creation deemed harmful. A tool should not, for example, prevent you from making a bunch of imag…

In that case enjoy our proof of concept:

https://app.engageusers.ai

Everything from realistic faces to realistic posts. We tried to make it as ethical as possible in multiple ways. But ultimately it is designed to spur conversation on topics that need more kickstarting engagement…

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There haven't been any solid rulings on the copyright validity of human-driven AI generation yet. There have been a few cases, but they've been muddied by complicating factors (not a human doing the generation - that is, autonomous generation - or the generation being used as a base work for something else). Additionally, even if there's no copyright, the terms of service may still apply separately (see OpenAI disall…

A copyright is a government granted monopoly. The copyright office has stated they wont grant monopoly privilege for ai generated art. The courts thus far have backed them up. I would say it doesnt look good at the moment for to try and enforce ownership of something ai generated, it would be an uphill battle, and the default/null position would be that the art is free to use, and unprotected by government.

> The copyright office has stated they wont grant monopoly privilege for ai generated art.

No, they haven't.

They've said that if the only human input is a text prompt, then it lacks the required human creativity to be eligible for copyright protection.

Re: AI real-time human full-body photo generator

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> “If you want to use images produced by Human Generator in commercial projects, contact us.” If there is no copyright in AI-generated images, then how can they possibly enforce this?

Its terms of use of the site, you are offered use of their geneator in exchange for agreeing not to use it commercially. If you use it commercially, you are breaking those terms, which they will argue are an enforceable contract. Copyright has nothing to do with it.
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