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Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by bbarn »

jeanofthedead wrote: post #63
chkaloon wrote: post #56

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Get a smartwatch and that can vibrate.

Mhmm. Talking about pockets when smartwatches exist for this exact reason is so archaic.

Both my wife and I have apple watches. The battery life is bad enough that you have to either charge it at night (and miss out on the sleep tracking features) or charge it during the day for an hour (and remember to go get it once it's charged).

I know the newer near a thousand dollar models can get better battery life but my 2 year old version and her 5 year old version do not last much past 24 hours.

Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by LK5ZJwMwgBbHuVI »

lucb1e wrote: post #72
cfeduke wrote: post #57

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I practice this - DND, no interruptions, etc. - all of the time, with only my wife able to get through via a direct phone call for an emergency. However, when my friends gather for gaming every Friday night at our club - they do not practice this. It is non-stop interruption, chimes from phones, and very long sounds for a text message. I don't know if its a problem but awareness can't hurt.

> with only my wife able to get through via a direct phone call for an emergency Is nobody except your wife reasonable about when to send an async message versus when to call? You found an exceptional wife then, at least among that population Also, not having (group) message pings is not the same as not having pings for synchronous calls where someone actually requests your immediate attention. I have two colleagues…

It's much easier to bring your wife to understanding your personal preferences for interruptions, than to bring literally everyone in your life.

In my experience, my wife (like many in our generation) doesn't like talking on the phone so she won't call unless it's something time-sensitive. Meanwhile I've even seen some scammers and robodialers call twice in a row.

Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by lucb1e »

go_prodev wrote: post #55

I rarely get calls, so when I do, I usually don't notice it ringing in my pocket. I'd prefer a phone that zapped me.

That actually sounds like a really funny feature that would make the brand be mentioned in headlines worldwide. I hope someone at a phone company in Mumbai also has this idea and makes it as an add-on to your USB-C port or something so we can all have this :D

Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

lucb1e wrote: post #70
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #61

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> Phone ringing is already banned in some places, like public transport in some countries. That seems insane. What countries? Conversations I get, but ringing?

I can imagine it being against the rules, such as in a silent compartment on Dutch/German trains (which is imo nearly the same as law because it's a subsidised public service), and perhaps some religious state has it codified that churches are not to be disturbed or whatever, but that doesn't mean it gets enforced if you're clearly flustered, sorry, and decline the call immediately and it doesn't keep happening to th…

That makes sense. Given the impossibility of enforcing though, I can't see why any state would bother to make it illegal.

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Post by lucb1e »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #84
lucb1e wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can imagine it being against the rules, such as in a silent compartment on Dutch/German trains (which is imo nearly the same as law because it's a subsidised public service), and perhaps some religious state has it codified that churches are not to be disturbed or whatever, but that doesn't mean it gets enforced if you're clearly flustered, sorry, and decline the call immediately and it doesn't keep happening to th…

That makes sense. Given the impossibility of enforcing though, I can't see why any state would bother to make it illegal.

Having the rule gives complaints legitimacy and avoid that you feel like you're the problem, when apparently people generally agree (or it wouldn't/shouldn't pass parliament) that the problem is . Having the rule probably solves 90%+ of the problem

The remaining <10% is obnoxious people who are going to be obnoxious anyhow. I dunno, they'll probably use strobe lights to draw everyone's attention instead of using sound because that gets around the law. Wait, crap, that exists already (I love people sitting opposite me in the bus and 'flashing' me every 12 seconds)

Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by lucb1e »

LK5ZJwMwgBbHuVI wrote: post #82
lucb1e wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with only my wife able to get through via a direct phone call for an emergency Is nobody except your wife reasonable about when to send an async message versus when to call? You found an exceptional wife then, at least among that population Also, not having (group) message pings is not the same as not having pings for synchronous calls where someone actually requests your immediate attention. I have two colleagues…

It's much easier to bring your wife to understanding your personal preferences for interruptions, than to bring literally everyone in your life. In my experience, my wife (like many in our generation) doesn't like talking on the phone so she won't call unless it's something time-sensitive. Meanwhile I've even seen some scammers and robodialers call twice in a row.

> like many in our generation

That's kind of what I was getting at. Doesn't nearly everyone have the same policy already? This custom-agreement-with-wife is what I would call the default.

> I've even seen some scammers and robodialers call twice in a row.

Wow, how dare they?! That's illegal! ... More seriously, unless those are in your phone book then that should be easy enough to filter out and shouldn't bar letting your contacts call you when they think it's appropriate.

Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by davidbanham »

bbarn wrote: post #81
jeanofthedead wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mhmm. Talking about pockets when smartwatches exist for this exact reason is so archaic.

Both my wife and I have apple watches. The battery life is bad enough that you have to either charge it at night (and miss out on the sleep tracking features) or charge it during the day for an hour (and remember to go get it once it's charged). I know the newer near a thousand dollar models can get better battery life but my 2 year old version and her 5 year old version do not last much past 24 hours.

Other watchmakers have made very different design tradeoffs to produce better battery life. A base mode Garmin will happily run for over a week. The fancy models over a month. They still have great tracking and notification features. Might be worth a look when your current hardware no longer meets your needs.

Explicitly trying not to pile on the “let me tell you how to manage your notifications” train by the way! That’s up to you and yours. Just nerding out on smartwatches.

Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by LoganDark »

cooper_ganglia wrote: post #42
LoganDark wrote: post #12

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This comment comes off as claiming that neurodivergence is a bad thing.

This comment comes off as claiming that being neurodivergent and being well-adjusted are incompatible ideas.

Absolutely not. I was referring to the use of "normal". Not "well adjusted".

Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by EE84M3i »

PrimeMcFly wrote: post #61
3np wrote: post #48

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Phone ringing is already banned in some places, like public transport in some countries. I guess OPs argument is to expand this to more public areas and that your wife wouldn't pick up phone calls there in the first place. If she wants to notice her text notifications when e.g. on the train or in the mall, she'd have to pick the phone out of her bag.

> Phone ringing is already banned in some places, like public transport in some countries. That seems insane. What countries? Conversations I get, but ringing?

Most of the train companies in Tokyo have signs asking you to use "manner mode" (vibrate). Some also have signs asking you to be considerate and not have your headphone volume too loud because it can disturb others.

However, my impression is that this is mostly advisory/social pressure and not actually a ban that has any consequences if broken.

Re: Phone.wtf

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Post by tomrod »

mattl wrote: post #59
tomrod wrote: post #49

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Looking at you, Uber, and my once-a-month ride somehow equating to 10 UberEats notices per day. Marketers -- you're on notice.

Uninstall Uber Eats until you need it again but yes this sucks.

I don't have Uber Eats app or use the service, but if I could use the marketing cash they offer as currency I'd have a nice chunk of the office rent paid each month.
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