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Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by thesuitonym »

prmoustache wrote: post #73
littlestymaar wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How can you have different bookmarks, extensions, and maybe even a different theme (so you know you're using the right window) > The answer is: you can't. Because containers and profiles are different things. If that's what you need then just use Firefox profiles then! The thing is, most people don't need that, and containers offert better ergonomics for the majority use-case (like the one described in the post). B…

Most people don't use chrome profiles either, this is definitely a power user functionnality.

I'm not entirely certain this is true. Maybe at one point it was, but nowadays since signing into any Google site signs you into Chrome, a lot of folks have their work and personal email addresses as profiles in Chrome.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by _emacsomancer_ »

luuurker wrote: post #37
jraph wrote: post #32

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We have about:profiles now, a convenient way to manage and launch profiles. No need for firefox -P anymore :-) (Though I still use it out of muscle memory. alt+F2 firefox -P is so quick to type.)

We've had about:profiles for many years, but that UI is not for the average user. On macOS opening a new profile through that also opens the window in the background and may also mess up your Firefox icons in the dock, not to mention that you'll break your profiles if you make the mistake of opening a profile from a different FF version on your current FF (eg: stable profile on FF Developer can't be opened again by F…

There are extensions to make the UI friendlier, e.g. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/profile-switc...

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by hospitalJail »

I havent been able to uninstall Chrome. Everyone makes sure they test their website for Chrome. Firefox/Safari just don't have devs testing on them.

I currently have Firefox for most things, but I seemingly always have chromium open to check to see if a website isnt behaving correctly.

What a terrible time for computing. Chrome is in total control of web. Nvidia + M$ have complete control of high performance computing, and M$ sucks. Apple captures tons of attention and time with their marketing but has low quality products.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by deadbunny »

noman-land wrote: post #21
neals wrote: post #13

I've always found the Firefox devtools be a little less 'quality of life' like. Just my opinion. Haven't used it in a few years. But for me, I just live in devtools, you know. As most of you here, probably. Opinions?

I always hear people say this, but they never give examples.

Because their examples are always "it's not exactly the same as Chrome devtools, it has all of the same features but they aren't a pixel perfect replication!".

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by unethical_ban »

rakoo wrote: post #66
unethical_ban wrote: post #61

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I will say the process for creating a new container per website is bad. * Create new container "target" * Open new Target container * Go to target.com * Click the container menu and choose "Always open in..." and if you have a lot of containers, scroll down to "Target" And then, you still get asked "Hey, you told us to open this in the target container, is that correct?" even though I have *explicitly* said that's ex…

Use Multi-Account Containers ( https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account... ), it does exactly what you want.

That's what I'm using. And I like its capability. But as I said, the first-time process for getting a site isolated (if you tend to isolate sites often) is cumbersome and I feel there could be a shortcut button for [create new container -> assign site to new container].

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by nerdponx »

littlestymaar wrote: post #57
luuurker wrote: post #18

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(I'm replying to the original version of your comment.) How can you have different bookmarks, extensions, and maybe even a different theme (so you know you're using the right window) with containers? The answer is: you can't. Because containers and profiles are different things. That's the "sacrifice" you're asking users to make. To change the way they use browsers, to adapt to something that is useful, but not a com…

> How can you have different bookmarks, extensions, and maybe even a different theme (so you know you're using the right window) > The answer is: you can't. Because containers and profiles are different things. If that's what you need then just use Firefox profiles then! The thing is, most people don't need that, and containers offert better ergonomics for the majority use-case (like the one described in the post). B…

I would use Firefox profiles if it were easier.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by KptMarchewa »

jrm4 wrote: post #8

Do people live in their browsers like that? I find it useful to keep both. 95% of the time I'm in Firefox, as one should be -- with all the good adblockers etc. And for the 5% unavoidable garbage of "things I must use/sign up for in life" that don't implement things properly, including Zoom, I keep Chrome around.

In my experience, only sites that break are google ones. Right now Google Flights and Hotels are pretty much unusable, as is GCP console.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by BeefWellington »

dano wrote: post #28
matsemann wrote: post #4

I feel this article almost do more harm than good. It paints a picture that you need to "sacrifice" something to use Fx and lists various "problems". For instance it mentions how troublesome it is to use profiles as a "problem". Don't. Use containers. Hundred times more smooth than profiles. Hence why no one cares about making profiles in Fx better, there is already a better solution to the problem profiles solve. Ne…

The Firefox documentation says to Enable Containers through General Settings -> Tabs [1] but there is no such checkbox [2]. Going into about:config and changing privacy.userContext.enabled and privacy.userContext.ui.enabled to true [3] enables the checkbox in the settings page [4]. This is Firefox Version 116.0.3 under Ubuntu. I use Chrome and Firefox interchangeably so I don't have a dog in this fight. Containers ak…

The checkbox is indeed there for me in 111.x.

Perhaps the documentation needs an update for the latest version if it's been moved elsewhere.

Edit: I just checked in 116; it appears to just be always enabled now.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by tcfunk »

deadbunny wrote: post #74
dataflow wrote: post #11

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> Never had problems with font rendering Okay, so what's the logical conclusion here? That the person is lying? The font rendering is very much off, some people just don't notice or don't care. Denying something others see with their own eyes doesn't help anybody.

As a Firefox user I had to open Chrome to check this to see if I had just been living with bad font rendering for the last 20 years. Firefox uses my system defined default fonts (DejaVu Sans, DejaVu Serif, Hack) where Chrome completely ignores the system fonts. IMO using the system defaults is the correct action here. Anyway after manually configuring Chrome to use the system defaults they look identical to me: Firef…

Chrome's font makes me want to squint. Probably I'm just used to FF.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by PetitPrince »

neals wrote: post #43
noman-land wrote: post #21

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I always hear people say this, but they never give examples.

Fair enough. I just started the latest version and must say, it has really improved. Quality of life probably means I have to look a bit more for where stuff is. And hey, they might have some stuff that Chrome doesn't have, right? So my first one is 'Chrome devtools has a little button to instantly switch to mobile view, where you simulate (more or less) the viewport of various mobile devices'. I don't see this in Fi…

> So my first one is 'Chrome devtools has a little button to instantly switch to mobile view, where you simulate (more or less) the viewport of various mobile devices'. I don't see this in Firefox.

The icon is slightly different and is in a different place (same vicinity though, somewhere on the top-right), but the "Responsive Design Mode" is equivalent to Chrome's "Device Toolbar". See https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/devtools-user/respon...

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