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Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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I was recently shopping for an UPS + couple 100Ah Batteries solution and failed to find an easy way to buy something not manufactured in China. Northvolt seems to not be present in retail at all. Are there any good places I should've checked out?

Battleborn batteries are manufactured in the USA (unsure about the raw cells though) and have great service/warranty, but are expensive.

Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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Well sure, because they're an investment company. They manage people's money. A lot of people seem to talk about BlackRock as if they're investing their own money, which would be similar to pretending your bank owns all the money that you put in it. They have $10Tn under management, but they have a market cap of $100bn. So the vast majority of what they're doing is just brokering deals for their investors. The fact t…

$10 tn AUM is way too much. I don’t see what the price of their stock has to do with anything.

AUM: "Assets Under Management".

Why does that matter? Why is 10T too much? It's a big number but that money is ultimately under the control of the individual asset holders (so far as I understand it anyways).

Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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I was recently shopping for an UPS + couple 100Ah Batteries solution and failed to find an easy way to buy something not manufactured in China. Northvolt seems to not be present in retail at all. Are there any good places I should've checked out?

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Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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I was recently shopping for an UPS + couple 100Ah Batteries solution and failed to find an easy way to buy something not manufactured in China. Northvolt seems to not be present in retail at all. Are there any good places I should've checked out?

Another Swedish company that does battery tech: https://mattr.se/official-projects/

And https://polarium.com/

But not really consumer products either.

Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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>Having said that, Blackstone/rock has grown far too much. People need to stop sending their money to their index funds. Where else do you send it to? Vanguard, with 7.7T AUM? For reference, Blackrock's AUM is 9.4T.

My choice was to pick stocks. This is hard so I built a stock analysis platform for myself. But there are much better ways to get a diversified basket of solid stocks than blindly sending your money to the same 500 companies everyone else is sending their money to. There isn’t a simple formulaic answer to the question of how society should most optimally invest it’s excess capital.

> There isn’t a simple formulaic answer to the question of how society should most optimally invest it’s excess capital.

So then investing in an index fund should be a fine choice for some, even many, correct?

Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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Which is exactly what investors pay Fink and the BlackRock team to do. Most people don't have time to analyze and choose things to invest in, so they offload that responsibility to BlackRock in exchange for some fees. The system is working as intended.

To me, the bigger issue is whether BlackRock just gets paid a fee to manage the portfolio composition, or whether they can also exercise voting rights on shares in their ETF.

Institutional investors have to option of retaining voting rights. About 1/4th seem to do so.

https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/about-us/investment-stew...

Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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I agree that it's a conflict of interest, but I'm not sure how the chair of the fed could keep their money without a conflict of interest somewhere, given that their role necessarily has interests in all US financial institutions. For the chair to not have a conflict of interest, they'd need to forfeit all their money, or keep it in cash under their mattress.

I'm of the opinion that anyone in government or regulatory agencies should be forbidden from conducting any business at all while in office. Put it all into a blind trust. It should be a crime to be a regulator while doing business with the entities one is regulating. As I said, just my opinion.

>I'm of the opinion that anyone in government or regulatory agencies should be forbidden from conducting any business at all while in office. Put it all into a blind trust.

Following the Dallas/Boston Fed scandals a couple of years ago, the Fed does enforce this separation of interests, and Powell's money is now held in a blind trust. The trust is managed by Blackrock.

Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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$10 tn AUM is way too much. I don’t see what the price of their stock has to do with anything.

Agreed. Investing with one of the huge investment firms such as BlackRock, Vanguard or State Street feels like investing in the erosion of democracy and the monopolization of the means of production. The optimal strategy for them is to coerce all the companies that they invest in to only do business with each other in order to completely lock new competitors out of the market. This is very bad for consumers and socie…

Vanguard literally provides for investment in every security. All of them. Every single one. I currently own interest in every equity security available to a US investor by purchasing a single ETF. How is it that Vanguard (which is owned by its funds which in turn are owned by individual investors in those funds) would benefit from coercing literally every publicly traded company from transacting with every other non-publicly business? For instance, of what benefit is it to Vanguard to prevent Sysco from selling food to restaurants that are not publicly traded? Should Apple not sell phones and laptops to any non-publicly traded business? Should Amazon stop transacting with non-publicly traded companies? How does any of that work in my interest as an owner of Vanguard?

Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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Well sure, because they're an investment company. They manage people's money. A lot of people seem to talk about BlackRock as if they're investing their own money, which would be similar to pretending your bank owns all the money that you put in it. They have $10Tn under management, but they have a market cap of $100bn. So the vast majority of what they're doing is just brokering deals for their investors. The fact t…

Agree on all points except the comparison with banks. The banks do technically own the money you put in it - and what you get in return is an IOU. So a bank is a very different sort of thing.

There are plenty of (particularly debt/bond) investment funds structured this way too ie you buy an IOU from them (for varying reasons from tax to regulation to legal costs) - "securitization vehicles", CLOs, etc.

Re: Northvolt raises $1.2B convertible note from BlackRock

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is exactly what investors pay Fink and the BlackRock team to do. Most people don't have time to analyze and choose things to invest in, so they offload that responsibility to BlackRock in exchange for some fees. The system is working as intended.

To me, the bigger issue is whether BlackRock just gets paid a fee to manage the portfolio composition, or whether they can also exercise voting rights on shares in their ETF.

They disclose all of what you're interested in: https://www.blackrock.com/corporate/insights/investment-stew...
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