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Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by medicalreasons1 »

I am completely shocked that this discussion does more or less not include the issue of noise. I was diagnosed with 100 AHI last year and from day one it was impossible for me to sleep with the noise the mask makes.... The first night in sleep centre with CPAP was hell for me. I couldn't fall asleep even though it was 4 a.m. and I had only slept 4 hours the day before.

At home I can only fall asleep with hearing protection, because of which my ears are permanently inflamed.

The doctor, referring to the high AHI, did not even consider trying other forms of therapy. > You can sleep with hearing protection, right? Then everything is good.

To me, CPAP doesn't feel like a solution. Rather, it is a bad temporary solution with which a lot of money can be made through rental fees.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by WoahNoun »

onewheeltom wrote: post #70

I had both obstructive and central apnea and have been totally fine with the CPAP from day 1. Sounds like I’m an outlier. As for the other options, they may not have worked for me.

I use a nose mask and my CPAP is great. No snoring anymore, the mask doesn't bother me, and I wake feeling much, much better than before.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by teucris »

medicalreasons1 wrote: post #81

I am completely shocked that this discussion does more or less not include the issue of noise. I was diagnosed with 100 AHI last year and from day one it was impossible for me to sleep with the noise the mask makes.... The first night in sleep centre with CPAP was hell for me. I couldn't fall asleep even though it was 4 a.m. and I had only slept 4 hours the day before. At home I can only fall asleep with hearing prot…

That’s an astonishingly loud machine - I can barely hear mine. I sometimes lay and try to listen to it, but quickly I find the sound of my breathing makes up the majority of noise in the room.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by medicalreasons1 »

teucris wrote: post #83
medicalreasons1 wrote: post #81

I am completely shocked that this discussion does more or less not include the issue of noise. I was diagnosed with 100 AHI last year and from day one it was impossible for me to sleep with the noise the mask makes.... The first night in sleep centre with CPAP was hell for me. I couldn't fall asleep even though it was 4 a.m. and I had only slept 4 hours the day before. At home I can only fall asleep with hearing prot…

That’s an astonishingly loud machine - I can barely hear mine. I sometimes lay and try to listen to it, but quickly I find the sound of my breathing makes up the majority of noise in the room.

It is not the machine at all. I have a ResMed AirSense 10 AutoSet. Bystanders tell me that they hear next to nothing. It is the sound that is made in the mask (ResMed AirFit F30i) when I inhale that drives me crazy. Every time I breathe in, it sounds like Darth Vader.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by callalex »

reilly3000 wrote: post #73
taeric wrote: post #2

The number of people that are using a CPAP is honestly mind boggling to me. The number that have gotten one, and then refuse to wear it is even crazier. I remember when I first got one, I assumed it was some niche thing that was going to be unheard of from everyone I talked to. Turns out, not so much. I don't think it has been a miracle device, by any measure. But I'm curious what makes it so hard to stick to for so…

For me, I have an unrelated sleep disorder that makes sleep extremely important, and sensory issues that made sleeping with CPAP difficult to impossible. I tried lots of kinds of masks at my expense, but got no material support from the providers involved. After many months of trying I found that I have far better sleep without it, and got sick less frequently as well. I cleaned it fastidious and fiddled with it regu…

Wear the gear every time you have had alcohol, and you will definitely feel much better the next morning. Bonus points if you can crank the humidifier to help keep you hydrated while sleeping.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by callalex »

medicalreasons1 wrote: post #84
teucris wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s an astonishingly loud machine - I can barely hear mine. I sometimes lay and try to listen to it, but quickly I find the sound of my breathing makes up the majority of noise in the room.

It is not the machine at all. I have a ResMed AirSense 10 AutoSet. Bystanders tell me that they hear next to nothing. It is the sound that is made in the mask (ResMed AirFit F30i) when I inhale that drives me crazy. Every time I breathe in, it sounds like Darth Vader.

If sounds on your face and in your head are that noticeably loud, you may have obstructions in your ear canal, such as impacted earwax. Does your humming sound louder when you plug your ears, or does it stay the same?

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by thedougd »

gmiller123456 wrote: post #19
taeric wrote: post #2

The number of people that are using a CPAP is honestly mind boggling to me. The number that have gotten one, and then refuse to wear it is even crazier. I remember when I first got one, I assumed it was some niche thing that was going to be unheard of from everyone I talked to. Turns out, not so much. I don't think it has been a miracle device, by any measure. But I'm curious what makes it so hard to stick to for so…

Mine is a pretty high pressure, and a full face mask. The high pressure means the mask has to be strapped pretty tight. It also makes it tough to get into a regular breathing pattern, making just the act of breathing a major chore. You can't talk, or cough. You have to stay in certain positions to prevent the air from leaking out. The air echoes down the tube. I was a stomach sleeper before, which is impossible with…

See if you can turn on EPR where it lets off the pressure during an exhale.

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by Llamamoe »

taeric wrote: post #2

The number of people that are using a CPAP is honestly mind boggling to me. The number that have gotten one, and then refuse to wear it is even crazier. I remember when I first got one, I assumed it was some niche thing that was going to be unheard of from everyone I talked to. Turns out, not so much. I don't think it has been a miracle device, by any measure. But I'm curious what makes it so hard to stick to for so…

CPAP causes a sense of suffocation, nasal congestion, face masks are weakly effective while nose masks often run into the issue of switching to mouth breathing during resistance. It also prevents total airway collapse but not increases in effort. Basically it's way less effective than people assume, while introducing its own sleep disruption

Re: Flipping the model presents a new way to treat sleep apnoea

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Post by medicalreasons1 »

callalex wrote: post #86
medicalreasons1 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not the machine at all. I have a ResMed AirSense 10 AutoSet. Bystanders tell me that they hear next to nothing. It is the sound that is made in the mask (ResMed AirFit F30i) when I inhale that drives me crazy. Every time I breathe in, it sounds like Darth Vader.

If sounds on your face and in your head are that noticeably loud, you may have obstructions in your ear canal, such as impacted earwax. Does your humming sound louder when you plug your ears, or does it stay the same?

It sounds louder.

I figured, since hearing protection solves the problem, it's not a problem inside the head. Well it might be after all as I am apparently super sound sensitive.

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