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Re: 2009scape

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Post by memefrog »

Kiro wrote: post #80
NavinF wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Licenses which only permit non-commercial redistribution or modification of the source code for personal use only are generally not considered as open-source licenses. However, open-source licenses may have some restrictions, particularly regarding the expression of respect to the origin of software, such as a requirement to preserve the name of the authors and a copyright statement within the code, or a requirement…

Common speak disagrees with you and that's all that matters.

No, it doesn't. Everyone knows what 'open source' means: what the open source definition says. Literally the *only* place on the Internet where people pretend this isn't true is HN. I have never seen anyone suggest that 'open source' means anything else anywhere else.

Re: 2009scape

#82

Post by Kiro »

memefrog wrote: post #70
gcau wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. You're basically saying, "open source code isn't open-source". There's nothing incoherent about what they said.

No, I am saying open source code is open source. Open source has had an established, fixed definition for decades. It was coined for a specific purpose to represent a particular category of software licence. You are doing a disservice to anyone reading what you write if you use a term with a fixed, established definition to mean something completely different without signalling that you are doing so. Language is for…

It doesn't matter. Your definition is legacy and not what open source refers to in common speak.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by memefrog »

Kiro wrote: post #82
memefrog wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I am saying open source code is open source. Open source has had an established, fixed definition for decades. It was coined for a specific purpose to represent a particular category of software licence. You are doing a disservice to anyone reading what you write if you use a term with a fixed, established definition to mean something completely different without signalling that you are doing so. Language is for…

It doesn't matter. Your definition is legacy and not what open source refers to in common speak.

I don't know what 'your definition is legacy' means. Could you try to speak English?

'Open source' has meant the same thing for decades. Its meaning has not changed.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by ThatPlayer »

72736379 wrote: post #5

Private servers like this (though for a different game) were my first exposure to programming, free and open source software, and eventually, computer science as a whole- when I eventually went off to college I majored in computer science and had a great head start in many of the practical/application courses. I learned about versioning with SVN, OOP with Java, hacking together websites and forums with PHP while in m…

You've just reminded me of one of my learning experiences on my private server. I implemented a HTTP server. It was very basic but this was before I really learned about using libraries.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by sph »

Shekelphile wrote: post #36
impulser_ wrote: post #27

Can't believe Runescape private server are still a thing after 18 years. This is what got me into programming. I remember working with the first version back in early 2006 I believe it was called winterlove. You couldn't even play multiplayer. Then someone got multiplayer to work, I think that was called blakescape, then there was cheezscape and whitescape which became the popular versions to use because they came wi…

Permabanned from r-s gang wya? I miss laughing at 2speced Tyler and Nikki not actually being a girl wasn’t much of a surprise.

It is known that in Runescape "girl" = "Guy In Real Life"

Re: 2009scape

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Post by eigenket »

maxdamantus wrote: post #74
robrtsql wrote: post #72

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> Here's another activity that will probably never exist again: Law running. I remember both being a runner and a crafter. I'm out of the loop (I tried 2007scape but don't play it enough to be in the know). Is it because some other faster way of leveling Runecrafting has become available?

In modern OSRS I believe the main way of training Runecrafting is through the Ourania altar, and at higher levels the Soul/Blood altars, both OSRS-specific (I've used both as an Ironman player, but haven't played in the last few years, so not familiar with newer updates). I suspect Law crafting (with runners) would still be more XP per hour, but I think the player dynamics are quite different nowadays. You used to sp…

I think that most people these days train runecrafting with the "guardians of the rift" minigame. At least at lower levels. It adds some rewards and makes it somewhat less tedious.

Re: 2009scape

#88

Post by gcau »

NavinF wrote: post #67
gcau wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. You're basically saying, "open source code isn't open-source". There's nothing incoherent about what they said.

"Licenses which only permit non-commercial redistribution or modification of the source code for personal use only are generally not considered as open-source licenses. However, open-source licenses may have some restrictions, particularly regarding the expression of respect to the origin of software, such as a requirement to preserve the name of the authors and a copyright statement within the code, or a requirement…

I just disagree and use a different definition of open source than you/your sources (many people share my definition, mind you). If the source is open, its open-source. It can be free, commercial, or have any license. I feel like people with the other definition of OS, do it because they have a vendetta against companies that open-source code with a non-free license.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by gcau »

memefrog wrote: post #81
Kiro wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Common speak disagrees with you and that's all that matters.

No, it doesn't. Everyone knows what 'open source' means: what the open source definition says. Literally the *only* place on the Internet where people pretend this isn't true is HN. I have never seen anyone suggest that 'open source' means anything else anywhere else.

I have the exact opposite experience.

Re: 2009scape

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Post by [deleted] »

mikedelago wrote: post #63

Cool, I didn't realize Runescape private servers were a thing still. I contribute to AzerothCore[0] pretty regularly. There's a lot of improvements that could be made, but it's overall fun and the majority of people who frequent their Discord are friendly enough. [0] https://github.com/azerothcore/azerothcore-wotlk

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