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Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by A_D_E_P_T »

nicbou wrote: post #37

Ironically, articles got pointlessly long because of Google. Everyone stretches their content because long form ranks better. A few hours ago I wanted to know the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane. Here is the answer: they're the same thing, just in a different ocean. I clicked three or four articles and had to read for a few minutes to get to that answer. It's even worse with videos. It takes 10 minutes t…

This is astonishing: https://archive.ph/fbLlZ

> "Let’s start with some research from Hook Agency, which claims the best content length for SEO in 2023 is between 1,760 and 2,400 words"

The source, however loathsome, is probably correct. The front pages of the internet have become saturated with garbage ultra-long-form articles... not even "articles," really, more like ramblings. And it's Google's fault.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by rchaud »

oceanplexian wrote: post #73
patrickaljord wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for non political issues it should fine, eg to describe an algorithm or other non-controversial tech issues for example.

[flagged]

Trust the HN libertarian contingent to zero in on the real issues /s

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by renewiltord »

This sounds like a fantastic feature. And honestly I think all of these negative comments are just the HN reactionary trend. Lots of people are going to use this tool and it's going to be great to bypass all those annoying sites that have a lot of crap on them. Being built into the browser makes this very useful.

Also, all this wailing and gnashing of teeth is really quite annoying. Look at you people embarrassing yourselves.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by px43 »

standardUser wrote: post #66

Anyone who has spent time with AI chatbots knows how often they are just completely wrong, often in surprising and confusing ways. It's hard enough to parse articles for accuracy and coherency without first passing them through as random error-adding machine.

Humans are worse. Obviously if you don't know how to discern garbage data from legit data, you're going to have a bad time, but these emerging tools are strictly better than anything that has existed before.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by px43 »

alach11 wrote: post #43

I wonder how much they're projecting to spend on this? Or maybe they're prepared to eat a loss on this just to stay relevant in the face of Bing/Kagi/OpenAI? Results from these models are orders of magnitude more expensive than traditional search. Maybe they have some benefits of scale where they can cache and serve up the same summaries to many people?

I use the "summarize everything" extension that uses my OpenAI key, so it costs me a fraction of a penny any time I summarize something. Subsidizing something like this at scale would be pretty dumb.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by cesarvarela »

skybrian wrote: post #20

“Summarize this YouTube video” (given a link) is what I’d like to see and Google could easily do when there’s a transcript, but they’d probably rather make people watch the video. I think Kagi might do this? Any other good solutions?

I've been using this one: https://glasp.co/youtube-summary

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by px43 »

indymike wrote: post #44

This is where you start to sympathize with the news people in Canada who want google to pay for links. If google just summarizes at scale, interdicts the traffic and revenue, where's the incentive to create content? This is a failure mode for the information economy.

If your only incentive for creating content is harvesting attention and eyeballs, then the internet is better off without your content.

Re: Learn as you search (and browse) using generative AI

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Post by melling »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #15

Hard pass. I don't want Google, or even a trustworthy neutral party, to decide my view of the world. (Compromised as it may be already.) We're all unique and unpredictable. In a given article, a random sentence or point considered throwaway by most people and algorithms could turn out to be meaningful to me. I've been trained not to even trust the basic facts they pull of out content like movie showtimes or whatever.…

Actually, we’re not unique and often predictable. There usually is someone who says “I’ll never use the product because…” And it’s often a top comment. e.g. Smartphones with GPS, Amazon Alexa,…

To me it’s simply a noisy discussion with little value. Don’t use it but let’s not waste time debating it. No one’s mind is going to change.

I’d love nothing more than for an algorithm to filter out the noise and extract any information and facts. Learning whose opinion I trust on specific topics would also be useful.

Of course, others will tell me why this doesn’t work for them and they want the added noise. Seriously, the entire point is that some people will want the product while others don’t.

I’m not trying to change your mind, and I’m not trying to stop anyone else from the discussion. It’s simply not for me, in general.

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