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Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

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Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

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You're missing the rougelike part. This game is more about deck building and rougelike elements than it is about gambling. The button to spin is indeed the least interesting part of the game.

'Roguelike' has lost all meaning. Rogue never had any "deck building". Roguelike is not meant to mean any game that uses RNG.

> Roguelike is not meant to mean any game that uses RNG.

The ORIGINAL ROGUE had random elements, what are you on?

Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

#83
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In strict implementations of Islam, the forbidden practice is "games of chance", rather than "financial betting", so a virtual slot-machine (or even a real slot machine that doesn't accept coins) is forbidden in the same way a real slot machine is.

Are MMORPGs banned in islamic countries? They also offer variable rewards with apparent (virtual) value given the same input. Or do the policymakers care mainly about how the chance is presented? I am aware that you are probably not directly involved with whatever ratings board is relevant, and probably can't respond authoritatively, but if you could indulge my idle curiosity it would be really cool.

I think its roughly the same with MPAA rating system when it steps into "adult themes", etc. A movie can show all the same scenes and still not be rated the same because they can be framed as tangential or they can have the main role model dependent on a casino for income, needing alcohol like Popeye needs spinach and saying their calling in life is the perfect one night stand.

Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

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What is the appeal of this game? (Beyond exploiting addictive personalities with a very thinly-veiled gambling simulator that is rightly being banned.) It looks so boring. I can't tell if the reviewers proclaiming this as an "innovation" in the "roguelike" (?) genre are trolling or not. It's an ugly slot machine game where you click a buttonn to spin. This would have been uninspired trash in 1993. What am I missing?…

The game is very much a deckbuilder like dominion or slay the spire, and the slot machine is just fluff, except maybe adding a two dimensional aspect to it.

The main appeal is: You accumulate symbols into your deck, and the slotmachine arranges a random selection of your symbols up to 20ish (don't recall 100%) onto a 4x5 grid. Afterwards, symbols interact with symbols, combos happen and it just becomes funny to make a couple hundred thousand gold in a single spin. This is very similar to the fun of having an engine go off in dominion.

And then that appeal changes as you realize that there is very little luck necessary in the game. If you try hard, you can get win streaks at highest ascension levels. If you learn the different combos beyond the obvious ones, the weird interactions you can have with items and essences and so on.

It takes some 3-4 runs to appreciate the depth the game actually has. And then the fun begins.

Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

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Even if those countries were democratic, is there any reason to think they would choose to legalize simulated gambling?

I looked at the list more closely and lol, what is South Korea doing on there? Yeah, I could see South Korea legalizing it. The others...unlikely, to be sure. But you never know, I guess.

SK has a lot of restrictions on gaming in general and it might be for non-gambling simulation reasons

Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

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You seem to be too "bew hew my game got banned" to see the golden marketing opportunity that has fallen in your lap.

Add something along the lines of "so badass it's illegal in 13 countries" to the description and watch sales skyrocket. People love banned stuff.

Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

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post #68

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Really? Country X doesn't like simulated gambling mechanics, Google won't release game in country X therefore Google are Nazis committing war crimes?

Somehow, you made me wonder what phone Hitler would use, if it's Android or iOS. And what social network app he would use. But one thing for sure, he wouldn't have time to play slots machines.

Surely it would be some sort of Volksmobil? The question is: how would it snitch on you?

Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

#88
post #50

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You're missing the rougelike part. This game is more about deck building and rougelike elements than it is about gambling. The button to spin is indeed the least interesting part of the game.

'Roguelike' has lost all meaning. Rogue never had any "deck building". Roguelike is not meant to mean any game that uses RNG.

Agreed. A roguelike must have:

Random procedural map generation.

Turn-based gameplay.

Items which start unidentified, but can still be used (with some risk of being cursed).

Ability to save and exit at any time to resume later, but no ability to save without exiting. Character death deletes the save file and requires starting from the beginning.

Combat-based gameplay, with monsters becoming more difficult as the player progresses through the map levels.

Character can level up by gaining experience, encouraging them to stay at a given level to gain power.

Food must be consumed to avoid dying of starvation. Food is not particularly common, forcing the player to keep progressing to future levels to avoid starvation.

If it's missing one or more of those elements it's a roguelite at most. It's not just random maps, or "permadeath", or item identification, or the tension between starvation and experience, it's the combination of all those elements.

Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

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post #18

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Why is there not even lip service paid to consistent enforcement?

Because they enforce when someone complains. They aren't going to proactively ban stuff unless they really have to (e.g. something that is very obviously illegal/scam/etc.) So if nobody complained about the other apps, they didn't get banned. It is that easy. That someone else does something that violates those policies/laws too doesn't mean that you get a free pass, unfortunately.

I'd buy that if the app stores weren't proactively rejecting apps for the same reasons they fail to enforce on others.

Re: Luck be a Landlord is now banned in 13 countries on the Google Play Store

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>Today I received an email from Google Play Support stating that Luck be a Landlord has been geo-blocked in the following countries: United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Iran, Jordan, South Korea, Libya, Oman, Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Tunisia, and Yemen. >According to Google, the app "contains content that doesn't comply with the Gambling policy." > It should go without saying that I 100% disagree with this d…

The issue is that other apps with similar (or outright copied) functionality are allowed in those countries. The problem is with Google's inconsistent appeals process, not with the laws of those countries.

The problem is absolutely the laws of those countries. Arguing "but you allow X" will just get X also banned, not make them see the light that the law is unjust.
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