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YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Re: YouTube-Dl Site Goes Offline as Hosting Provider Enforces Court-Ordered Ban

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #65
adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll take that trade

I would too. But i am saying if we are okay with gun manufacturers enabling death and murder, then by all means ytdl can and should stay up.

> gun manufacturers enabling death and murder, then by all means ytdl can and should stay up.

I assume you're referring to arms makers selling weapons that are obviously not for hunting game to the civilian market, rather than overall, because (such as it is) countries generally need defence-forces, and those forces do need arms.

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Post by pessimizer »

autoexec wrote: post #43
sgjohnson wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft has largely stopped giving a fuck about piracy of their consumer products. py-kms is freely available on GitHub, and so are Windows Activation Tools. While arguably py-kms doesn’t violate anything, as it’s a cleanroom implementation of the KMS server, Windows Activation Tools definitely does. Either way, MS could eradicate all of those repositories, they aren’t doing it.

MS has done a good thing by defending youtube-dl but their lax enforcement concerning windows piracy is a bit different. MS turns a blind eye to windows piracy for the same reasons malware authors don't care if their software is spread on GitHub or P2P sites. Microsoft cares much more about getting their hands on all your personal data than they care about the money they'd get from an OEM license. People can download…

I don't think so. I think the real reason is that a pirated Windows install is not Mac or Linux, and will probably, eventually, become a legal Windows install.

Imagine telling a bunch of possibly talented and/or ambitious poor people that they should use another (better) operating system. Instead, let them become Windows experts and ultimately make Microsoft more money.

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Post by shermantanktop »

Espionage724 wrote: post #71

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I've used it to pull the audio off videos of live jazz performances, so I can run slow-down tools and play along to learn. I could do the same by recording the audio out of my laptop.

That type of thing is not the majority use case for youtube-dl, but for any type of digital media there are plenty of individual, educational use cases that do not involve "pirate" activity (i.e. further distribution). Whether or not that's officially ok or not, I'd assert it is morally ok.

As an aside, if YouTube is the only or canonical source for some material, getting it from the distribution channel (YT) and getting any access to the media in question are now one and the same problem. But let's not get confused about the value YouTube is providing - they are just a distributor, not a creative originator.

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Post by waithuh »

vkou wrote: post #61
can16358p wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So PayPal's policy is "guilty until proven innocent". Nice, hope they go bankrupt.

You're free to try running a payment processor with a mantra of "Innocent until proven guilty." You'll be a honeypot for every scammer, fraudster, and con artist ready to take advantage of that policy, your processing fees will be through the roof because of chargebacks, and the only people who will use your platform will be the aforementioned scammers, fraudsters, and conmen. I'm sorry for the GP poster's situation,…

See: crypto. Marvelous technology. Ruined in the public's eye because of the amount of scams in it. Those same scams were used as justification for strict KYC laws. Which did not do much to stop the fraudsters really, hurt legally operating investors' privacy instead.

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Post by godzillabrennus »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #55
Workaccount2 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The wider internet has some kind of brain damage where they think spreading stuff like this is a smart way of protesting.

I agree and I don't. We can rip dvds almost precisely, because spreading stuff beyond the ability for it to be easily controlled under single point of failure.

I bought a tshirt with the decss key on it when that went public.

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Post by b59831 »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #27
em-bee wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i'd rephrase that, rightsholders should not get stuffed, but these are not rightsholders because their rights are not being infringed by the mere existance of youtube-dl

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Post by pessimizer »

Espionage724 wrote: post #66
superkuh wrote: post #51

It's amazing what kind of mental gymnastics can allow someone to think you can watch a video without downloading it. Lawyers live in a world very unlike reality.

I can listen to music on the radio, but it's a whole different issue when I pick specific songs to pirate for my own personal listening :p But that's not where the caring comes in; it's the tools I can use to pirate songs; hence youtube-dl going down and not the users who used it. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a TOS clause about videos on YT not being your property and that you can't export them off the platform…

In order to watch these videos, your computer downloads the videos. Your radio doesn't have to download a copy of the song to play it.

> I can't imaging there being a large percentage of "legitmate" and fair usage.

My usage is usually no less legitimate than youtube's usage. I'm usually downloading things that were uploaded without permission from the copyright holders from a platform that is distributing them without permission from the copyright holders.

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Post by cenacio »

Espionage724 wrote: post #71

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I use mpv to watch videos and streams because my computer and my GPU are old and can't manage the amount of RAM these sites need, their buggy players, or the chat on streams keeps logging and wasting RAM. Without mpv youtube-dl and yt-dlp integration I couldn't watch them.

There are a lot of tools to download videos, some of them integrated in the web browser as add-ons. You could even download them directly using Developer Tools.

This a tantrum against a tool, like the ones against VHS, CD-ROMs, cassettes, DVDs or bitorrent.

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Post by philistine »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #55
Workaccount2 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The wider internet has some kind of brain damage where they think spreading stuff like this is a smart way of protesting.

I agree and I don't. We can rip dvds almost precisely, because spreading stuff beyond the ability for it to be easily controlled under single point of failure.

Almost precisely? The bits are correct or they're not.
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