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My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

styren wrote: post #67
knocte wrote: post #23

> GitHub Be careful with using their CI tho, even if it's good, you hit the limit quite fast (especially storage, not minutes; and they don't report properly where the storage expenditure comes, so it's very frustrating).

You can quite easily plug in your own CI runner on Github and reduce the cost by 20 times or more, especially if you're already running k8s. (I wrote a post about it for the cheap managed k8s service I built https://symbiosis.host/blog/using-actions-runners )

I use ARC and I wouldn’t call it trivial to set up. Took awhile to tweak all of the things necessary to get it working right. It is way cheaper though once it is working

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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adg33 wrote: post #43

> I use AWS EC2 for Waitlist's backend python webserver, RDS for the postgres database, S3 for file storage, and an Elastic IP. I use T2 and T3 instances. My AWS bill would be $200-300 a month My guess is that RDS is eating up the cost here? I've been using Litestream on datasciencesouth.com - it has flaws but if you can get away with it, it's much cheaper than RDS.

The thing about RDS is that you’re paying for database backups and failover etc to be someone else’s problem. Given that the data is often an extremely critical art of the application and the high chance that you are probably not doing it right if you’re not an expert it’s often worth it to pay for managed db. RDS is a pretty raw deal in that space though. Someone else rightfully pointed out that you can get Supabase managed db for $30 USD per month which is significantly cheaper

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by jsf01 »

What is the value in paying monthly for an SEO tool? I have a hard time understanding paying for one at all, but presumably these things don’t change drastically month-to-month, so you get most of your value within that first month. Is that not the case?

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

lawgimenez wrote: post #57

How about the free GitHub issues instead of Linear. Also Bugsnag's free tier is more generous compared to Sentry.

Linear is more of a UX thing, not quite the same product. GitHub issues is steadily working to be better though. They’ve basically already made Zenhub pretty much obsolete in recent releases

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by intelVISA »

nordsieck wrote: post #47
stewartmcgown wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to be CTO of an Uber Eats style service that ran on hosting costs of about £100pm. Thousands of orders every few days, real time driver tracking, self hosted invoice generation, the works. Hetzner servers, Docker Swarm and Cloudflare for the tech.

> Hetzner servers It is truly amazing to me the value that is provided by renting hardware instead of VPSes. As long as you're willing to roll your own infrastructure instead of buy into a cloud provider's infrastructure.

If you know what you're doing it's easy enough to roll out a multi-region distributed system with HA and backups on a pretty modest (However, most people do not - some will learn, but most will fall for the cloud marketing depts and become infra renters for life. Teach a man to fish, and so on.

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by SOLAR_FIELDS »

creshal wrote: post #19

Why shell out for 1password with its history of security problems when bitwarden is free?

1Password probably has best UX. You are thinking of Lastpass for security problems, 1Password has not had a breach. Source: went through all of these as possible options for the company I work for last month

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by number6 »

niemandhier wrote: post #53
nordsieck wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hetzner servers It is truly amazing to me the value that is provided by renting hardware instead of VPSes. As long as you're willing to roll your own infrastructure instead of buy into a cloud provider's infrastructure.

I did that once and the data center burned down. Sure I could have the service spread over several centers and build distributed backups etc. In the end self hosting and self managing is a money / time trade off, especially for a side gig I’d us SAS and managed solutions. The one thing one has to make sure off is to not get locked in with a particular provider, so knowing how to do everything yourself is a very valua…

To be fair, Datacenter burning down is pretty much on the bad luck side of risk management. It's in the same category as your distribution center being hit by an earthquake... I'd guess it wouldn't happen again, but who knows...

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by jmstfv »

I've compiled a list of businesses that are sharing their expenses publicly, adding this one as well: https://github.com/jmstfv/open-expenses

On the stack itself: it might seem overpriced (or even overengineered), but if that's what they're comfortable with, so be it. Getting your product out there faster and being more agile (no pun intended) is worth much more than saving here and there - you can always optimize later (which is a place most businesses won't ever reach, unfortunately).

Re: My frugal indie dev startup stack (2022)

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Post by hamsterbase »

I also maintained a project at an extremely low cost, other than the $99 for the mac app store and the domain, my other costs were $0.

This is an read-it-later app https://hamsterbase.com/

• Official website deployment: render.com

• Code hosting: GitHub’s private repository

• Issues management: GitHub issue

• Product release: GitHub release , dockerhub

• Email: Free email service from larksuite.com

• Document management: logseq, a free, open-source note-taking software.

• Newsletter: substack

• Design: Figma

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