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Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by Legend2440 »

deciplex wrote: post #46
ilc wrote: post #30

A company is not family. A company is not your friend. To quote Bob Seger: "I used her, she used me but neither one cared We were gettin' our share" - Night Moves That is a corporate relationship. Nothing wrong with it. But always keep it in context... if ya ain't getting your share, go get it elsewhere.

Completely agree with this, but at the same time there is something deeply dysfunctional about our mercenary attitude toward our work relationships. For any given individual I think they have no choice to approach it this way, but I do hope we eventually land somewhere a little healthier, as a culture.

Work is just a transactional relationship. I need money, they need workers, that's all there is to it. It ends if I find better money elsewhere, or they no longer need workers.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

nannal wrote: post #6
mydriasis wrote: post #2

> This comes as disappointing news, as we've all built strong connections with our fellow Hackeronies. Sorry my little Hackeronie. I'm afraid I'll be firing you now.

Does anyone else feel weird about these terms used for employees. Hackeronis, Twittarians, Redditites, coinbese?

It's no weirder than Linux users sporting Tux (the penguin) logos and getting excited about Linux desktop marketshare or Rust advocates referring to themselves as rustaceans. People are tribal.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by Groxx »

deciplex wrote: post #78
Groxx wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I'm saying that hackeronies does not make everyone uncomfortable / is not necessarily cult indoctrination. Stuff like that can and does arise naturally in groups of people (and can also arise as a control mechanism). You're saying there are pure non-creepy fun actions for everyone that a business can do. I'm saying it's too gray to make that assertion, not too black and white. So I'm curious what you think is per…

Note that I'm reading 'There's not much middle ground between "try to have some fun at work because there's no reason not to" and "don't do something someone might take issue with",' as a general assertion on your part - now I'm thinking maybe that's not what you meant. In that case some of what I said might not apply. that said: > You're saying there are pure non-creepy fun actions for everyone that a business can d…

We're probably on the same page then. And I completely agree that there are better and worse options.

I mean that "fun harmless in-crowd things" can be disturbing from the outside - context and intent matters. A strange in-crowd name is pretty far down the "there are harmless causes for this" side of things imo. Using it in a layoff announcement is probably not the best place though, unless they honestly think the laid-off feel good about it. A large enough package might achieve that tbh, but that's obviously rarely the case.

I'm honestly not sure if there exists a thing that a business can do that its employees would enjoy that will not be interpreted as creepy by some. Everything excludes someone somewhere somehow, the most you can do is target your crowd as best you can... and people commenting on a forum are not in that target audience, so I find the obsession over the name here to be pretty dumb. (Not claiming you're obsessed, just that it's the majority of the comments here so far)

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by [deleted] »

deciplex wrote: post #46
ilc wrote: post #30

A company is not family. A company is not your friend. To quote Bob Seger: "I used her, she used me but neither one cared We were gettin' our share" - Night Moves That is a corporate relationship. Nothing wrong with it. But always keep it in context... if ya ain't getting your share, go get it elsewhere.

Completely agree with this, but at the same time there is something deeply dysfunctional about our mercenary attitude toward our work relationships. For any given individual I think they have no choice to approach it this way, but I do hope we eventually land somewhere a little healthier, as a culture.

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Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by samtho »

cobertos wrote: post #18
nannal wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone else feel weird about these terms used for employees. Hackeronis, Twittarians, Redditites, coinbese?

Slightly, it feels... hivemind-y? Working at a company I identify most with my direct colleagues/team, less so with wider orgs. Feels comparable to what I felt during high school "pep rallies". Hackeroni sounds like a pasta, and I'm sure I'd meme the shit out of it if I worked there

That seems like the point of the company demonym, got to drink that kool aid. What I find personality disingenuous (or perhaps even insidious) is the push to make everyone feel like they are an integral part of a group and then treat them like disposable objects when it’s more convenient at that moment.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by ilc »

deciplex wrote: post #46
ilc wrote: post #30

A company is not family. A company is not your friend. To quote Bob Seger: "I used her, she used me but neither one cared We were gettin' our share" - Night Moves That is a corporate relationship. Nothing wrong with it. But always keep it in context... if ya ain't getting your share, go get it elsewhere.

Completely agree with this, but at the same time there is something deeply dysfunctional about our mercenary attitude toward our work relationships. For any given individual I think they have no choice to approach it this way, but I do hope we eventually land somewhere a little healthier, as a culture.

In reality: I am not that mercenary. Nor is the man in the song.

They both know the rules... and they both are enjoying the profits.

If a company wants to make a major commitment to me, I commit back. But note: commitments come in the form of money and actions. Not talk.

If the company wants to have a fling... I consult by the hour too. :)

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by oxfordmale »

mydriasis wrote: post #2

> This comes as disappointing news, as we've all built strong connections with our fellow Hackeronies. Sorry my little Hackeronie. I'm afraid I'll be firing you now.

The Godfather has over cooked the Hackeronie and made a bologna out of the company. Unfortunately we need to to dissolve 12% of our Hackeronie brothers and sisters in sulphuric spaghetti sauce to hide the incompetence of the Chief Hackeronie Officer.

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by mikrl »

mkl95 wrote: post #4
mydriasis wrote: post #2

> This comes as disappointing news, as we've all built strong connections with our fellow Hackeronies. Sorry my little Hackeronie. I'm afraid I'll be firing you now.

You're just another Johnnie Hackeronie now...

Hacky Doodle went to VCs

“make it lean and bony”

Fired 12% of staff

And called them hackeronies

Re: HackerOne lays off 12% of its workforce

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Post by joshcafe »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #82
nannal wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone else feel weird about these terms used for employees. Hackeronis, Twittarians, Redditites, coinbese?

It's no weirder than Linux users sporting Tux (the penguin) logos and getting excited about Linux desktop marketshare or Rust advocates referring to themselves as rustaceans. People are tribal.

You can't be fired from Linux, and if you contribute to the codebase, you do own it under the terms of the GPLv2. (Idk if Linux does copyright assignment but even if they do, it's still GPL).

Whereas a company can tell you to fuck off for literally no reason, give you nothing, and shove you out onto the street with no healthcare and no salary, and then sue you if you if you try to do anything about it.

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