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Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Point #1: This bait-and-switch tactic shouldn't be allowed by consumer regulations (Not in the US, but here in Brazil it would be a no-no) as in the end Amazon is tricking it's use base into paying for the Fire TV as a great deal, when in the end they will pay more for streaming as those costs that Amazon is putting on the streaming services will be paid by them in the end. #2 Wouldn't this movement be (potentially)…

How we can differentiate between bait-and-switch and honest price correction?

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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I have 7 HDMI slots on my TV, ready for Peacock Stick, Hulu Disney Plus stick, Netflix Stick, Paramount Plus stick, Max Hub etc etc Not more than seven though mmmkay?

You'd probably DoS your router if they're all on concurrently due to all the data exfiltration they're performing.

No joke just the Amazon stick itself would accomplish that. It tries to phone home constantly, every second of every day, idle or not.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Plex Inc. is not a good company. They are eager to collect and sell your data to advertisers. Jellyfin is a great alternative. Plex may share Collected Information as expressly set forth in this Privacy Policy, including the following limited situations: [...] With third parties to improve and deliver advertising to you on our behalf. Plex may also use third-party advertising companies to serve ads, which may, direct…

As lousy as Plex (both the company and the product) have become, there really aren't alternatives with feature-parity available. Jellyfin is starting to get there in terms of basic media center functionality, but still faces stability and platform compatibility issues that have been long-solved by Plex. Jellyfin also lags behind in ecosystem support/integration for those of us operating media servers with heavy amoun…

Infuse https://firecore.com/infuse

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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This right here. You're anti-consumer? Enjoy losing money with your content "monopoly"

I also enjoy spending time on shady websites with scams ads and virus. That will teach Netflix and Apple.

I don't spend any time on shady websites with scams, ads, and viruses, and I surf the high seas for video content with regularity. It's very easy to do safely, and in this day and age, it beggars belief that this comment was made in good faith.

Stop spreading misinformation.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Cory Doctorow has been writing about this lately. It seems we are heading back to the economic system that preceded capitalism in Europe: feudalism, where almost all of the gains were taken by rentiers: people who made money based on what they own (land, exclusive rights from the king, etc). Want to sell an app? Pay 30% to the landlord, but only if what you want to sell doesn't conflict with their business model.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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post #83

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As lousy as Plex (both the company and the product) have become, there really aren't alternatives with feature-parity available. Jellyfin is starting to get there in terms of basic media center functionality, but still faces stability and platform compatibility issues that have been long-solved by Plex. Jellyfin also lags behind in ecosystem support/integration for those of us operating media servers with heavy amoun…

Infuse https://firecore.com/infuse

Client is available for Apple ecosystem only.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Low cost computer, free software updates, backend infrastructure, several years of functional life, for $40 in sales (is there any profit there?). Exactly how is it surprising that they need to make some sort of additional revenue via kickback?

They already get plenty of kickbacks:

- Service providers paying them to have their buttons on the remote.

- % cut for movies & TV shows that users purchase on the device.

- % cut for subscriptions/IAPs from all the installed apps.

- Directly driving subscriptions for Prime Video.

- First party ads all over the interface.

- Selling and monetizing viewership data.

Of course none of this is enough, and so the company must continue to squeeze the ecosystem to placate shareholders.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Did you know that you could just grab an old computer slap Ubuntu on it, and get all of those services through only 1 HDMI slot?

If you're talking about doing the playback on Ubuntu, you lose the high-definition. I guess it may not be important for you, but I expect someone who sunk a fair amount of change on a high-end TV to care.

Do you mean HDR? High definition video playback works fine on Linux. Very performant even with low end hardware.

Re: Amazon requires services on Fire TV to give it 30% of ad impressions or revenue

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Turns out we would in fact download a car.

Mandatory reminder of the Piracy Warning from The IT Crowd : https://youtu.be/ALZZx1xmAzg

That is a parody of a real ad that appeared on American TV about 10 years before the IT Crowd. The original was almost as absurd.
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