Probably Russians testing remote-controlled drones with animals in them.
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Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
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Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#82I don't think humans have had contact with extra terrestrials yet. This is just conspiracies fuelling debates.
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#83This whole thing is just making me have less and less faith in society. There's no fucking way this is remotely true, but everywhere I look, not matter the community, there's so much "what if" nonsense that reeks of the same ignorance those people screamed about when that was the argument for COVID conspiracies. The energy required to travel through space is obscene. The difficulty of traveling through space is obsce…
I agree this is unlikely to be true, but I keep in mind what we know now and what we knew 1 million years ago. The energy to run a PC would seem obscene to people even thousands of years ago (let alone what a PC is and what it can do). Pull someone from earlier in this timeline and see what they think of airplanes.
2.6 million years ago: Stone tools
1.7 million years ago: Controlled fire
5,000 - 3,000 BC: Writing
3,000 BC: The wheel
1543: Nicolaus Copernicus publishes his heliocentric model of the solar system
1687: Newton publishes "Principia Mathematica"
1915: Albert Einstein publishes the general theory of relativity.
1969: Apollo 11 mission successfully lands the first humans, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin, on the Moon.
Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
You comment sound like a “know-it-all”. We don’t know what these crafts are, where they are from and how they came here. A little humble attitude is more aligned with reality: there’s so much we don’t know.
My comment is based on the current understanding of physics and the odds of some creature capable of defying that being able to even be hidden. I would love for us to find evidence of life in the universe which is why I despise this charade which takes attention away from the scientists who are actually trying to do so. But apparently SETI is in on it too or some other nonsense.
I would suggest you consider the possibility that the current understanding of physics a thousand years from now will look very different from how it looks today.
Even more so a million years from now.
The reality is that we're not a particularly intelligent species - as shown by the fact that we're currently terraforming our own planet to make it less hospitable.
Our culture may well be extinct within a century. So I think it's optimistic to believe that we as a species have much of a clue about anything at all.
Now put that in the context of an extremely old universe, and it's not hard to understand that we're unlikely to be the smartest people in the room.
FWIW I'm agnostic about UFOs. The problem is that they conflate two issues - aerial phenomena, and alien visitation.
There's no reason those should be connected. Or that the latter would inevitably be responsible for the former.
The scientific thing to do is to collect evidence of the former before assuming the latter.
Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#85Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#86This whole thing is just making me have less and less faith in society. There's no fucking way this is remotely true, but everywhere I look, not matter the community, there's so much "what if" nonsense that reeks of the same ignorance those people screamed about when that was the argument for COVID conspiracies. The energy required to travel through space is obscene. The difficulty of traveling through space is obsce…
I agree this is unlikely to be true, but I keep in mind what we know now and what we knew 1 million years ago. The energy to run a PC would seem obscene to people even thousands of years ago (let alone what a PC is and what it can do). Pull someone from earlier in this timeline and see what they think of airplanes. 2.6 million years ago: Stone tools 1.7 million years ago: Controlled fire 5,000 - 3,000 BC: Writing 3,0…
This is exactly my thought as well. There are a bunch of very interesting things in development: fusion energy is getting closer and closer, approaches for warp bubbles are being discovered without humongous energy requirements, possibly a room-temperature normal-pressure superconductor, etc.
It's hard to predict how much research all of these will take to fully harness, but given our previous rate of progress I'm still very hopeful that the world in 100 years will have technology we can't even dream of.
Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#87This whole thing is just making me have less and less faith in society. There's no fucking way this is remotely true, but everywhere I look, not matter the community, there's so much "what if" nonsense that reeks of the same ignorance those people screamed about when that was the argument for COVID conspiracies. The energy required to travel through space is obscene. The difficulty of traveling through space is obsce…
I agree this is unlikely to be true, but I keep in mind what we know now and what we knew 1 million years ago. The energy to run a PC would seem obscene to people even thousands of years ago (let alone what a PC is and what it can do). Pull someone from earlier in this timeline and see what they think of airplanes. 2.6 million years ago: Stone tools 1.7 million years ago: Controlled fire 5,000 - 3,000 BC: Writing 3,0…
A laptop consumes energy at the same order of magnitude as a human body—not an “obscene” amount. The physics of accelerating an organism to the relativistic speeds required to make space travel feasible are in a completely different realm.
Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#88This whole thing is just making me have less and less faith in society. There's no fucking way this is remotely true, but everywhere I look, not matter the community, there's so much "what if" nonsense that reeks of the same ignorance those people screamed about when that was the argument for COVID conspiracies. The energy required to travel through space is obscene. The difficulty of traveling through space is obsce…
This is just how it is. How it’s always been.
People need to believe in something. Multiple things. Anything. It’s why thousands of religions exist.
Most people have mundane lives and are wage slaves. This gives people hope. People want to believe there is more to life. Americans in particular want to believe their government is all powerful.
It should not be so shocking how easy it is to get people to believe this, or the fake moon landing, or anything else. People desperately want to believe, and the government is happy to enable it because it provides stability.
Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
My comment is based on the current understanding of physics and the odds of some creature capable of defying that being able to even be hidden. I would love for us to find evidence of life in the universe which is why I despise this charade which takes attention away from the scientists who are actually trying to do so. But apparently SETI is in on it too or some other nonsense.
I would suggest you consider the possibility that the current understanding of physics a thousand years from now will look very different from how it looks today. Even more so a million years from now. The reality is that we're not a particularly intelligent species - as shown by the fact that we're currently terraforming our own planet to make it less hospitable. Our culture may well be extinct within a century. So…
So these incredibly advanced beings also keep accidentally crash landing their spaceships once they get to earth?
Re: Former intel officer says 'non-human biologics’ found at alleged UFO crash sites
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
If this is true (huge gigantic "if"), then all information on this topic should be immediately declassified. It is unacceptable to keep the biggest discovery in the history of the human race from the public. There is no justification for it.
Bird poop on a crashed drone would also be “non-human biologics” on a “recovered crash”.
Would that be worth reporting in Congress?
Believing so suggests there's a purpose to deliberately wasting everyone's time in such a hearing.
Or a simpler answer, Grusch is plain lying. But somehow, the stakes seem pretty high for him to do so here, unless he's confident of the whistleblower book money he could someday make off of this.