A glitch in the SEO matrix

Post by samwillis » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 7:11 PM UTC

jklinger410 wrote: post #74

samwillis wrote: post #50

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From the point of view of someone who spent 10 years running an e-commerce store, and all its advertising, until a couple of years ago. Both SEO and search result ads on Google are dead. The hay day of being able to play the game and make a tidy profit is long gone. Google are playing every trick in the book to extract every possible cent from advertisers, spying on their business and sales to maximise their own prof…

> Both SEO and search result ads on Google are dead And then > Google's visibility of all transactions on every e-commerce website on the internet is insane. Ah, so they have all of the information and yet their ad products don't work. They don't know this?

Post by hospitalJail » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 7:14 PM UTC

samwillis wrote: post #31

superasn wrote: post #21

It's so weird that Google still hasn't created the ability to block spam domains. I don't think it's a technical difficulty but rather a management decision to allow spam as long as they have their adsense ads and it baffles me they just don't care about their end users at all. I think being a monopoly with most competitors lagging a lap behind can make you this way, but with chatgpt catching up quick, Google better…

Most of these spam content farms are covered with ads supplied by Google. The incentive isn't necessarily there to remove them. On top of that the worse the search results, the more likely the user will click an ad rather than an organic result. The Google of old wouldn't have been tempted by that incentive, but that Google is long dead. Bad search result = more revenue from ads. Obviously it's a fine balance, they d…

Post by hospitalJail » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 7:15 PM UTC

andrenotgiant wrote: post #26

superasn wrote: post #21

It's so weird that Google still hasn't created the ability to block spam domains. I don't think it's a technical difficulty but rather a management decision to allow spam as long as they have their adsense ads and it baffles me they just don't care about their end users at all. I think being a monopoly with most competitors lagging a lap behind can make you this way, but with chatgpt catching up quick, Google better…

They actually did have it as an experimental feature for a little while, maybe 10 years ago. [0] If I recall correctly, it was made available in response to another big wave of criticism directed towards Google about "Content Farms". It has been interesting to see the difference in response between the "Content Farm" debacle and what we are dealing with currently. [0] https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/03/hide-site…

Post by codegeek » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 7:16 PM UTC

DANmode wrote: post #62

codegeek wrote: post #8

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I do have a small team but I am constantly involved ensuring that Google is not being mean to us and the game is all about trying to stay on top 5-10 results.

Your bio welcomes strangers to chat, but, no method of contact! =] How can I get in touch?

Post by Given_47 » Wed, Jul 19, 2023, 7:43 PM UTC

qingcharles wrote: post #61

codegeek wrote: post #4

You either play the Organic SEO game or you Pay to Play (Ads). Google as a search engine is now useless when it comes to searching for a tool/software etc because everyone has gamed the "Best software for xyz" etc. But what's the alternative ? None. There are these "review" websites like Capterra/Software Advice/G2 and again you have to pay to play. You can technically get a review from a customer and get listed BUT…

Half the stuff I search for (old magazines) doesn't even appear in Google's SERPs any longer. I resort to Duckduckgo and Brave's searches among many others. Even things like Yandex give much deeper dives now.