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Re: Mini – The Minimal Language

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Help clarify thought? While being actively hostile to numbers?

I’m not acquainted to TP, can you precise what you mean here or provide some link about this?

https://lipu-sona.pona.la/11.html

I suppose I can agree with this page saying it "simplifies" thought, but not in the good way.

Re: Mini – The Minimal Language

#82
post #48

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By sheerest chance I read the same anonymous Japanese basket weaving forum where a link to this was posted just before its appearance here. Well played OP.

Which forum? May I have a link?

It's from a ~daily Japanese language thread, the comment in question is simply 'reverse nihongo just dropped https://minilanguage.com/' and did not spur any further discussion. I just happened to notice it at the time and thought 'mildly interesting, maybe I should submit this to HN'. When I visited HN later in the day I was amused to see it already here.

/jp/ is not an adult imageboard but still somewhat NSFW, consider yourself warned https://boards.4channel.org/jp/thread/44068025

Re: Mini – The Minimal Language

#83
post #67

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Same with Japanese, apparently a completely unrelated, differently structured language.

Fun fact: A subset of the linguistic community conjectures that Japanese and Korean are part of the same family as the Turkic languages. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altaic_languages

Yes, but it's a really remote relationship, if it exists.

Re: Mini – The Minimal Language

#84

> Mini is a man-made language designed to be as simple as possible. Okay. Now I want to know about non-man made languages.

"Made" and "evolved" aren't the same thing.

You can say that most languages aren't designed by people, but they were definitely made by people.

Re: Mini – The Minimal Language

#87
post #54

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> All of the consonants (b d f g j k l m n p r s t v) are pronounced exactly the same as they are in English. Phew! "T" as in "Trent" is the same as "T" as in "butter" for this person? "S" as in "pass" is the same as "S" as in "passion" too? "G" as in "go" is the same as "G" as in "gel" as well? There's a reason humans invented the IPA.

That sounds like they mean the default pronunciation, and those are pretty clear. C and G have some ambiguity, but they didn't include C and it should be obvious that G is not going to be the same as J. > There's a reason humans invented the IPA. 99% of people can't use IPA without an example chart. But also: "Each letter matches its International Phonetic Alphabet pronunciation with the exception of J, which is the…

> 99% of people can't use IPA without an example chart.

How many % of people who are interested in constructed languages?

Re: Mini – The Minimal Language

#88
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That clarifies a bit, but still leaves me confused at some of the choices made. Why include both sounds "r" and "l", when they can be tricky to distinguish for some speakers, and then use Japanese as pronunciation guide? The sounds "m/n" are also easy to mix up. Same with "b/v", which are pretty much interchangeable to a lot of Spanish speakers. I think the number of consonants could have been reduced considerably. I…

If you noticed, a ton of lexical material in Mini comes from Germanic and Romance languages, so even basic knowledge of English / German / Spanish / French is immediately helpful. Ditching the R/L distinction, or B/V distinction, or M/N distinction would kill most of this familiarity.

Indeed - it is pretty easy to "get" the language as it is (for Europeans). But I'm sympathetic to the suggestion of ditching those distinctions - not everyone has a Indo-European language background. My Japanese wife still can't distinguish those sounds, even after a decade of trying. She has to watch me closely to separate those sounds. Plus F/H, which is also a problem.

Re: Mini – The Minimal Language

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post #13

Maybe I'm just dumb but it claims simple phonetics but even after reading the pronunciation ("Say it like you mean it") section I still don't really understand how it's supposed to sound? The singular "a" between verbs and objects, is that a long or short vowel sound - do vowels have short and long distinctions at all? It says all the consonants are pronounced how they are in English - but consonants don't have just…

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