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Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

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Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

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Kind of silly that before the game is even released, competitors are calling foul that the game is going to be “too good”. Seems like cope to me.

They are in effectively open-beta right now, and people have been playing it for ~1 week. So there is lots of feedback and impressions out there now.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#82
post #11

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I explicitly set aside time for it, and track video games along with other things on my todo list. This may seem counter-productive and like it might ruin the fun, but the opposite turned out to be true. Since free time is finite now (and arguably always was), it helps to get the most out of a game, prioritize which games I really want to play, and what I expect to get out of the experience.

This really makes sense. I think I'll try to adopt something like this. Part of what I nostalgically yearn for was that feeling of, "my homework is done, it's a Friday night, there's no hockey tomorrow morning. I have a Pentium 2 in my room, summer breeze through the window, the world is asleep, there's a distant train rumbling quietly by, and I'm about to spend an hour reading up on every detail of Baldur's Gate whi…

Oh man, you nailed it there!

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#83
post #63

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I have only played Forbidden West and it’s the most mediocre experience I had with a video game in the past decade. The gameplay felt clunky with weird spikes of difficulty in the middle of otherwise fairly boring segments. The main plot was utter trash and the other quests completely uninteresting. If that’s the standard of good AAA games, I never want to play another one.

What would you consider the best experience you had with a video game in the past decade?

Elden Ring is certainly one of the best I played the past decade. The production design is fantastic.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#84
post #44

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That's on you. I prefer spending some actual quality of time (having a walk, having a conversation) with my SO instead of staying idly next to my SO and half consider it couples time.

Right but if we're dealing with time constraints then it's makes sense that watching something both of you are interested in _together_ is a more efficient use of collective time than watching it separately and talking about it during another activity.

That's not what I meant.

If you share an interest then go for it. What I meant is that some folks prefer to prioritize watching something "meh" on TV with the excuse of spending time with your SO and then complain they don't have time for gaming.

Instead of half assing two things: free time and familiar time. Spend some free time on your personal interests and then spend time with you SO where you are both engaged with each other!

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#85
post #63

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What would you consider the best experience you had with a video game in the past decade?

Probably the first Spelunky but Slay the Spire , A Short Hike and Disco Elysium are close. Honorable mention to both 80 days , Stardew Valley and The Witcher 3 .

Seconding all of those. Disco Elysium and some parts of Witcher 3 are some of the finest storytelling of the 21st century in any medium.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#86
post #18

> Two previous games, Divinity: Original Sin and Original Sin II, “worth of tech and institutional knowledge to draw from”; Divinity: Original Sin was one of the best games I've ever played. I don't game much these days but that one sucked me in hard. I tried playing other CRPGs (Divinity was my introduction to them) to fill the void but they didn't have the fun combat that Divinity did (Path of Exile) or were very s…

Highly recommend Wasteland 3 for a similar experience, also if you never played through Original Sin II it is the original but better.

I personally liked the original better than Original Sin II.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#87

> However, some devs are urging players not to rate all other games in the genre by such a high standard, appealing to Larian Studios’ unique combination of vast experience and resources. AAA game labels spend billions on producing mediocre quality bullshit sequels just to maximize revenue predictability rather than quality, originality or artistic value. That's their choice.

At this point, I consider a AAA rating to be a signifier of mediocrity. If something is being touted as AAA, I can be pretty sure it will be a disappointment. There are two factors that cause this: The amount of hype creates expectations that can not be met, and the cost of production is so high a studio can't afford to deliver everything they have to. The value proposition is just not there. I find that indie and mi…

This, but my reasoning is slightly different. I think it's more because the cost of production means that can't afford to do anything with artistic merit. The stakes are so high, that "chances" like actually being creative can't happen.

It ends up being a bit like easy-listening rock; doesn't offend anyone, plays by text book "rock" rules, delivers exactly what you'd expect, and nothing more.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#88

This is one of those games that I would have chewed on all summer back when I didn’t have responsibilities to tend to. To those who might consider themselves “well-rounded” with careers and families and sports etc. Does that magic and sense of free time to dig deep into something ever come back?

Not for me. After going through the Switch (perfectly designed for people like me, by being a main console that's also portable), the Steam Deck (finally being able to play those Windows games on Linux, _and_ take it with me), and a few of those Chinese portable emulators like the RG35XX (maybe if I play the games I already love? ...), I finally admit defeat.

It wasn't the games, or even the time, it was my age. That's gone now, and I'm finally admitting it to myself.

I think the grown up version of gaming is coding. It's tackles the things I enjoyed, but in a more mature way.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#89
post #67

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Yes, I rarely touch current games outside of very specific titles. I'm mostly spending my time playing games that have proven to be worth it on a community level for at least 6-12 months, and spending a lot of time on classic games that I missed because I was too busy. On game length, I also default to shorter experiences. How Long to Beat [0] is perfect for that. [0]: https://howlongtobeat.com/

r/patientgamers sounds like the community for you

Beautiful, thank you!

Re: Baldur's Gate 3: New Standard for the RPG Genre?

#90

This is one of those games that I would have chewed on all summer back when I didn’t have responsibilities to tend to. To those who might consider themselves “well-rounded” with careers and families and sports etc. Does that magic and sense of free time to dig deep into something ever come back?

yeah, sometimes. there is always something nagging "you should be doing X", where X is cleaning the gutters, or rebalancing the checkbook, etc. but sometimes you get excited enough that it drowns out the nag.

but it'll never be like being in 8th grade and playing starcraft until your eyes bleed, and then hanging out that the pool; repeat.

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