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Re: Sweden Sans

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Post by imiric »

mlsu wrote: post #25
Kon5ole wrote: post #22

I am fascinated by typography and page design and enjoy reading about it, but I have to admit I don't understand how this level of pedantry is able to survive. The amount of documentation and attention to detail spent on typefaces and when to use them is often off the charts compared to the time spent on stuff like keeping the website running, documenting the API or even the basic functionality of the app. It's like…

It is actually amazing how much effort is seemingly expended on things like this. I think it's pretty simple: - there are a lot of people out there who love obsessing over typography - they want to obsess over typography - so they invent a purpose for obsessing over typography I love it, I'm here for it, and I think we should give people money for obsessing over typography.

I think that's an overly cynical take for the work type designers do.

Design in general is highly detail oriented. In interior design, there are philosophies about the proper arrangement of furniture (feng shui). In visual design the balance of colors is crucial, and there are complex theories about the best ways to match and offset colors. This is highly technical work that might seem overly pedantic to outsiders, but really has an established theory about how it impacts the viewer.

So is the case with type design. There are infinite combinations of shapes and sizes of symbols, and an entire science behind how humans interpret characters to form words and communicate ideas. Think about how much design went into just this paragraph you're reading. A bad type can be tiring to read, while a good one can make the words flow off the page/screen. As readers, we take this for granted, but a type designer needs to take all this into consideration.

Consider the work it takes to design a logotype, and how it sometime seems deceptively simple, when in reality it takes a keen eye to design a brand logo. Now extrapolate that to all letters of all alphabets that a modern type should support, and it's no wonder that great type designers deserve all the praise and recognition.

So, yes, all these documents are necessary, and explain the intent of the designer, or how the user feels the type helps with transmitting their message.

Re: Sweden Sans

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Post by tuukkah »

etiennemarcel wrote: post #59

France also has its own design system and font (Marianne): https://www.systeme-de-design.gouv.fr/elements-d-interface/f...

The focus is very different though as the Swedish one is a brand guide for country marketing purposes while this is for developing government services.

Re: Sweden Sans

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Post by Sharlin »

tuukkah wrote: post #57
ricardobayes wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's definitely interesting how countries have their own PR these days. And it's working, if you think of a nordic country, chances are, Sweden is the first one that comes to mind.

It happens to be the biggest (excluding Greenland).

Biggest by population by a wide margin.

Re: Sweden Sans

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Post by smlacy »

astrolx wrote: post #41

More recently I found about Finlandica for Finland, quite nice too. https://toolbox.finland.fi/brand-identity-and-guidelines/fin...

Wow, this is really nice looking. Almost monospaced, and could easily be tweaked into a really nice looking font for programming.

Re: Sweden Sans

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Post by at-fates-hands »

Kon5ole wrote: post #22

I am fascinated by typography and page design and enjoy reading about it, but I have to admit I don't understand how this level of pedantry is able to survive. The amount of documentation and attention to detail spent on typefaces and when to use them is often off the charts compared to the time spent on stuff like keeping the website running, documenting the API or even the basic functionality of the app. It's like…

>> I am fascinated by typography and page design and enjoy reading about it

You should check out the Netflix series:

Abstract: The Art of Design Episode: Jonathan Hoefler: Typeface Design

The guy has some of the most important typefaces. The episode does an amazing job detailing his career and how they develop new typefaces. His work is literally everywhere and its super fascinating some of the misconceptions about type.

Re: Sweden Sans

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Post by bjourne »

I am Swedish and I've never heard of the Sweden Sans font before. The font doesn't look very "Swedish" to me and is completely different from the font used on road signage, for example. For running text the font doesn't work at all imo.

Re: Sweden Sans

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Post by jen729w »

satysin wrote: post #56
jen729w wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I know HN isn’t a support forum, but am I the only one who gets “Safari couldn’t establish a secure connection” to any of the archive.xx sites? It’s been happening for ages now.

Are you using Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 DNS by any chance?

No, I use Apple's Private Relay which might route via Cloudflare but I've tried it with it turned off and it makes no difference.

It must be something in my network path because I just tethered to my phone's 4G connection and it works. Odd.

Re: Sweden Sans

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Post by jacobr1 »

Kon5ole wrote: post #58
mlsu wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is actually amazing how much effort is seemingly expended on things like this. I think it's pretty simple: - there are a lot of people out there who love obsessing over typography - they want to obsess over typography - so they invent a purpose for obsessing over typography I love it, I'm here for it, and I think we should give people money for obsessing over typography.

I suspect you're on to something ;-) It might also be that people who obsess about typography are more inclined to create pretty documents whenever they can. API authors and DB designers are maybe less interested in making pretty documents, which is why their (at the very least equally important work) is often described in a readme.txt meant to be read from the terminal in the typeface of the reader's choice.

I've met DBAs, when that role was more common, that obsessed over creating ERDs and other data digrams - posted them all over the walls. But that was because they wanted to do it and were sufficiently empowered. It clearly was related to their work, but most other engineers wouldn't really have cared if they existed or not.
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