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DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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$35M being meh is peak HN here. Me not being from US, getting $100k was golden cufs that took many years to break even when I did not enjoy my work.

$35 million is how much they raised. If they were purchased for $111 million that means that after the investors are paid off their principal there is $76 million left. There are 70 employees, the original investors probably made some profit on their initial investment, so split that remaining $76 million among everyone and none of the employees left super rich from this deal except maybe the founders.

If they raised $35million, you're not accounting that venture funding especially at this scale is preferred shares.

This means that the vc money requires 7-9% per year payback on liquidity event until any other equity gets any money.

This means you're likely subtracting 1-3 million per year from other equity holders based on $35mn raised

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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Just contact your ISP to get a public IP. You might not get a static IP, but you can configure a dhcp client to request your old IP when reconnecting after a power outage. Set DNS TTL reasonably low like 12 hours so that you can recover if you do get another IP. Another way is to signup for a cheap VPS and use a tunnel to your home server. There's lots of really cheap VPS's with 128MB of memory that is plenty if you…

It's not really a silver bullet nowadays, residential plan ISPs are very wary of allowing inbound connections in my experience

The problem is the lack of IPv4 addresses. IPv4 addresses are ridiculous expensive. And most people don't need a public address so ISP save a ton of money by using NAT. I don't know if they must give you one or not if you ask, but I think a public IP address should be a human right, or you should at least be able to change to an ISP that can provide one.

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

#83

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$35M being meh is peak HN here. Me not being from US, getting $100k was golden cufs that took many years to break even when I did not enjoy my work.

$35 million is how much they raised. If they were purchased for $111 million that means that after the investors are paid off their principal there is $76 million left. There are 70 employees, the original investors probably made some profit on their initial investment, so split that remaining $76 million among everyone and none of the employees left super rich from this deal except maybe the founders.

> none of the employees left super rich from this deal except maybe the founders

You could say that about 99.9(9?)% of startup exits.

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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The gaming community also used Paperspace sometimes for PC game streaming. It allowed users to install Steam or other clients to tap into existing libraries. I found about it in the reddit /r/cloudygamer sub and used it temporarily on vacation to play Assassin's Creed Odyssey and it worked pretty well.

True, but i would say shadow.tech is way better valuable for money.

I feel like shadow always had way more latency, and paper space was much more consistent

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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The I pretend I know what I'm doing strategy. Most acquisitions fail. It's a difficult path unless it fits a very specific need. Yet a common management / product strategy is to buy random companies as though they are ingredients of a dish and think it'll just work. Digital Ocean to me has lost their core focus and appeal. They aren't upgrading their hardware, software and other crucial pieces of their infrastructure…

> Yet a common management / product strategy is to buy random companies as though they are ingredients of a dish and think it'll just work. Acquisitions are an easy way to juice top line growth. Acquisitions also offer ample opportunity to put lipstick on your finances. After all, any acquisition has many one-time costs and you can use this to juice your margins. You also forecast substantial cost savings by eliminat…

By the time the music stops, they’ll have grown too big to fail, and it’ll also likely be a sector-wide downturn, so they’ll just get another bailout from Uncle Sam. Moral hazard is endemic in Sillycon Valley.

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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It's not really a silver bullet nowadays, residential plan ISPs are very wary of allowing inbound connections in my experience

The problem is the lack of IPv4 addresses. IPv4 addresses are ridiculous expensive. And most people don't need a public address so ISP save a ton of money by using NAT. I don't know if they must give you one or not if you ask, but I think a public IP address should be a human right, or you should at least be able to change to an ISP that can provide one.

How can a public IPv4 address be a human right while at the same time "we ran out of them" and there aren't anywhere near enough for everybody?

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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Paperspace gives free access to Graphcore IPU nodes (with 4 IPUs each), which is pretty neat. Theoretically that is way more throughput than a Colab T4 instance. ... But in practice, I tore my hair out trying to port an actual Stable Diffusion web UI, until I hit a wall. I needed to upgrade the "Poplar SDK" or something beyond the ancient Python 3.8 version to get things working, but the download was behind some kind…

Glad to read about your experience, because I just checked out their website and was about to bite on the free IPU access. But if it needs some special proprietary software to work in the first place, I probably won't bother.

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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Paperspace gives free access to Graphcore IPU nodes (with 4 IPUs each), which is pretty neat. Theoretically that is way more throughput than a Colab T4 instance. ... But in practice, I tore my hair out trying to port an actual Stable Diffusion web UI, until I hit a wall. I needed to upgrade the "Poplar SDK" or something beyond the ancient Python 3.8 version to get things working, but the download was behind some kind…

Glad to read about your experience, because I just checked out their website and was about to bite on the free IPU access. But if it needs some special proprietary software to work in the first place, I probably won't bother.

It is free to use, the issue is upgrading the software past what ships on the ancient Ubuntu image. The IPU Python library is tied to a specific Pytorch and Python version.

... And this might be better now, I have not checked recently.

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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> Yet a common management / product strategy is to buy random companies as though they are ingredients of a dish and think it'll just work. Acquisitions are an easy way to juice top line growth. Acquisitions also offer ample opportunity to put lipstick on your finances. After all, any acquisition has many one-time costs and you can use this to juice your margins. You also forecast substantial cost savings by eliminat…

By the time the music stops, they’ll have grown too big to fail, and it’ll also likely be a sector-wide downturn, so they’ll just get another bailout from Uncle Sam. Moral hazard is endemic in Sillycon Valley.

DO is just at 3.4B$ market cap; far from becoming too big to fail.

Re: DigitalOcean acquires Paperspace (YC W15) for $111M in cash

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Thanks to you both. I'll look into it. You can buy a computer that is 1000x more powerful than a droplet for a fraction of the ownership cost, especially if you only get occasional visitors. I'm excited by the idea of completely decentralized hosting; now we just need decentralized payments - that take USD.

Sorry if I'm not getting something, but wouldn't dynamic dns help in your instance?

So your IP changes and your DNS entries are all invalid across the www until they TTL. And then you're back online.

Doesn't sound very useful for hosting anything public.

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