So after all, you can write twitter in a week, it seems.
This has been in the works since January and still hasn't been released, so at least half a year
Threads, an Instagram app
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Re: Threads, an Instagram app
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter Now call me crazy but I disagree. I think - or rather I feel - he's doing an excelent job somehow. He's doing what other executives are afraid to do: he's building and building requires some walls to be hammered down ; and yeah this makes some noise and smoke. He's moving fast and breaking things (if you'd excuse the easy punt). To me, what he's doing is exciting and I think t…
What is it that you think he's building?
Debt.
Re: Threads, an Instagram app
#83As a Mastodon/Fediverse user, I hope the rumors that this is based on ActivityPub are true. I'd love for there to be an easy-to-use interface for everyone that brings more people and content into the Fediverse.
Most big servers seem to be in a pact to defederate from Facebook before it even goes online. I also remember the rumours stating that the Federation part was exclusively targeting large Mastodon servers, and also mostly unidirectional (from Mastodon to Threads). I don't think the federation support will be all that great from what I've heard. But who knows, maybe it'll bring the Fediverse to the mainstream.
What's great is I can easily swap to an instance that is federating!
Unidirectional federation sounds like a nightmare on the UX side, so if that's the case I imagine it'd be Threads to Mastodon, enabling you to follow (but not interact) with Threads users.
Re: Threads, an Instagram app
#84Big signals that Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter if Meta scrambled to ship a competitor like this. I don’t use Twitter so I won’t use this either but it’ll be interesting to see if the instagram folks can take this market from twitter.
Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter Now call me crazy but I disagree. I think - or rather I feel - he's doing an excelent job somehow. He's doing what other executives are afraid to do: he's building and building requires some walls to be hammered down ; and yeah this makes some noise and smoke. He's moving fast and breaking things (if you'd excuse the easy punt). To me, what he's doing is exciting and I think t…
I take no view on whether Elon will be successful on making Twitter more profitable. But as a user -- and someone that typically supports Elon -- I have to say he's made the app subjectively worse IMO. I find the "For You" page and algorithm to boost more "junk" content than before. I used to find it interesting, now it feels like scrolling through Instagram meme pages. I'm at the point where I am thinking of uninstalling it.
Re: Threads, an Instagram app
#85No mention of federation or Mastodon in the description. I wonder how their negotiations with large Fediverse servers are going. Is there anything else that distinguishes this from existing Facebook products?
The number of people who have even heard of "federation" or "Mastodon" is a vanishingly small fraction of the target audience for this app. Why waste precious page space on it?
Even if barely anyone even considered using it, social media users will have heard the name "Mastodon" in the news. Even normal people news covered it during the start of Twitter's slow collapse.
To be honest, I fail to see the value of Threads considering both Facebook and Instagram already exist. Is this just "Instagram but the image posts are optional"?
Some kind of "explore not just Instagram but also the rest of the world" take could work to advertise their new network, maybe painting their shitty company in a better light.
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#86On the fediverse, there's already a huge number of instances planning to block this app when possible as it isn't really in the spirit of the fediverse - it's proprietary, owned by a large company and centralized
>it's proprietary
but uses an open standard
>owned by a large company
This doesn't contradict with the fediverse. Getting large companies on board is important for ActivityPub's adoption.
>and centralized
So is almost every other fediverse instance.
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#87Oh, wait, this feels like the start of a cyberpunk story.
If TikTok gets banned, where to the users go? Instagram.
Threads could replace Twitter.
Reddit is going downhill... Maybe Meta could even buy it in a firesale?
Outside of chat apps like Discord, Slack, Teams and Telegram (which compete with WhatsApp), Meta will have consolidated most of the world's social media under them. And that's assuming they dont buy out Discord.
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#88As a Mastodon/Fediverse user, I hope the rumors that this is based on ActivityPub are true. I'd love for there to be an easy-to-use interface for everyone that brings more people and content into the Fediverse.
Most big servers seem to be in a pact to defederate from Facebook before it even goes online. I also remember the rumours stating that the Federation part was exclusively targeting large Mastodon servers, and also mostly unidirectional (from Mastodon to Threads). I don't think the federation support will be all that great from what I've heard. But who knows, maybe it'll bring the Fediverse to the mainstream.
That doesn't seem to be true. There are a lot of instances that have signed the 'pact' to defederate Threads right away, but those tend to be mostly small instances.
Looking at the largest 30 or so instances by users most of them seem to have a 'wait and see' approach, which seems much more reasonable to me.
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#89Big signals that Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter if Meta scrambled to ship a competitor like this. I don’t use Twitter so I won’t use this either but it’ll be interesting to see if the instagram folks can take this market from twitter.
Musk made a lot of mistakes with twitter Now call me crazy but I disagree. I think - or rather I feel - he's doing an excelent job somehow. He's doing what other executives are afraid to do: he's building and building requires some walls to be hammered down ; and yeah this makes some noise and smoke. He's moving fast and breaking things (if you'd excuse the easy punt). To me, what he's doing is exciting and I think t…
I don't like to use insults around mental health, or I totally would ;) Musk wants to build an "everything app" where people conduct business and accept payments. And he's shown over the past weekend that he is fully willing on impulse to literally just stop everyone from using the website.
So who on earth would be irresponsible enough to trust Twitter with anything essential or important after this? Who is going to build a storefront on a platform where they might wake up one day and find out that all of their customers are rate-limited from using the platform? And then the CEO jokes that he's doing people a favor by making them touch grass?
A bunch of artists who had (shortsightedly) built their business models around using Twitter as an art platform woke up one day to find out that their artwork can no longer be embedded in other websites. A bunch of government agencies and public services just found out that "check our Twitter for updates" no longer works. With no warning and with no announcement, all because Elon is mad that OpenAI hasn't cut him a check.
That is a business-destroying decision. Other executives are afraid of doing this because it's the kind of thing that permanently hinders your platform from ever being treated like a reliable place to do business or build on top of. It puts a mark on your businesses reputation that will never go away. And it's not a tech issue, it's a trust issue. Finish the big work and make something exciting, sure, but nobody with an ounce of sense would ever trust Elon not to pull the rug out from under them now.
You're going to build a business on a platform that might randomly decide to effectively shut itself down on a whim? Imagine if you had an Amazon shop and Amazon decided tomorrow with no warning that every customer on the platform is limited to buying at most one item per day, and also external links to Amazon no longer work for guest checkout unless your customer makes an account. How are people defending this? It makes no sense.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hrm...mine tells me something went wrong when clicking. Is it a beta or something?
That's strange, worked for me. Probably some A/B testing ...
Seems like only available in certain locations.
You can play with the `gl` query parameter in the URL. Yours is for Italy ("it"). It's available in other continental Europe locations like: de, fr, be, es, pt, at, cz, pl. While not yet released for majority English speaking countries (us, ca, uk, au, nz) with the exception of Ireland (ie).
I don't have any insider information even though my employer is Meta. I learned about this release from HN.