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Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by bradknowles »

jmbwell wrote: post #52
Jtsummers wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.energystar.gov/products/smart_home_tips/about_pr... That kind of thing already exists.

I'm afraid consumers have grown leery of this kind of thing, though, between power companies messing with our cloud-enabled thermostats and appliance manufacturers harvesting data and good lord, nagging us with ads and popups and incessant updates on our damn fridges and laundry machines... not to mention transmission providers neglecting the whole scheme to death. I've had a string of in-home energy monitors, and I'…

I am actively interested in a good energy monitoring system, that can monitor each and every circuit separately, as well as the overall usage across the whole house. It would be great if it was smart enough to figure out what usage patterns corresponded to what, so if I have multiple items on the same circuit, it can still distinguish between them.

I don't want any part of that system connected to anything that the utility companies have access to or control over.

I don't want that provided by third party companies that could go out of business overnight, and leave me high and dry.

I don't want to have to replace my electrical panels to get this information.

I do want this data all being collected and stored locally, but with a way to reliably back that information up to offsite facilities of my choice.

And it would be great if it could have a system that could apply intelligence as to which circuits/devices need to be powered when, in case of emergency or if I just want to optimize my power bill.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by thebruce87m »

tourmalinetaco wrote: post #78
Toutouxc wrote: post #64

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They were throttling CPUs to literally extend the life of the phone. They did it so your phone could still run reliably with an old battery which would otherwise need to be replaced.

So they were “fixing” a problem they caused. CPUs wouldn’t need to be throttled if batteries could be more easily replaced. And theoretically, if this was the case, why isn’t there an option to throttle? It is the user’s device. And why wasn’t it used to help lengthen the battery life of the new phones? I certainly would prefer throttling my CPU to lengthen battery life.

There literally is an option to toggle the throttle once the battery is degraded, and the feature did/does exist on new phones, even today. Go and read the wiki on batterygate.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by thebruce87m »

alpineidyll3 wrote: post #32
honeybadger1 wrote: post #6

Toggle on virtue signaling.

More likely a play to reduce battery lifetime by increasing incidence of full discharge... Note a year ago they settled a lawsuit about throttling CPUs with updates on older iphones for the same purpose. The environmental footprint of an iphone is significant no matter what offset fake math they employ....

> Note a year ago they settled a lawsuit about throttling CPUs with updates on older iphones for the same purpose.

Why do people spread this sort of stuff? Apple have never settled anything related to a “play” to intentionally shorten the lifetime of a phone.

Batterygate extended the life of individual handsets with degraded batteries that were out of warranty. These handsets were rebooting due to the battery until Apple brought out an update that throttled them after the next brownout, and replacing the battery brought the handset back to full speed. Why go to all that trouble if you wanted to sell another phone?

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by f311a »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #61
f311a wrote: post #23

I’m so tired of this kind of marketing. Meanwhile, if your SSD dies on m1 macbook, the laptop becomes unrepairable. If Apple would care about ecology, they would at least allow to resolder it.

Sure. Same situation if your CPU, Chipset, PMIC, or any random capacitor or resistor dies on any other laptop. SSDs have achieved the point where a replacement from a failure is almost unheard of compared to other components failing first. Nobody complains their laptop CPU isn't socketed. It's definitely a frustration for upgrades - but not really reliability anymore. When's the last time someone complained their pho…

One out of my three macbooks (that I ever had) died because of SSD. They have a limited lifespan. That's a common problem for 3-5 years old macbooks.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by sparrish »

johnnyb9 wrote: post #31
sparrish wrote: post #24

Does this mean the phone only charges during the day? It won't charge at night when solar and wind are least effective and fossil fuel power is used nearly exclusively? If that's true, it would be most inconvenient for me as I only charge my phone at night, while I'm sleeping. Seems simple enough to disable but to change the charging behavior on an update might be a bit of a shock if you expect your phone to charge a…

Wind power is generally higher at night.

Can you provide a citation for that?

I can see hundreds of wind turbines from where I live (all the red lights flash in sync on the horizon, it's kinda creepy). There's definitely more wind during the day than at night here.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by jbm »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #53
jbm wrote: post #9

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I should bring up that top opening chest fridges are actually pretty great for energy efficiency! https://youtu.be/CGAhWgkKlHI The amount of electricity needed is so small that it might even be comparable (mobile so i haven't calculated yet)

You are WAY off. An efficient top freezer will still use about a kilowatt hour per day. A typical phone will use 1/100th of that. https://ecocostsavings.com/freezer-wattage-energy-efficient/

I definitely was wrong; they are "comparable", but the phone is much more energy efficient.

I looked it up online, and apparently the "average amount" used by a phone is 15Wh or 0.015kWh per day.

A chest freezer apparently uses ~0.55 kWh per day, or 36 times the amount of electricity.

I don't know if the phone includes energy loss during charging, or if that is the amount being drained from the battery.

It's not 1/100th, but it is still quite a bit more. Considering this is mostly caused by insulation, I wonder if there are ways to improve the insulation to reduce this energy use further.

Re: Use clean energy charging on your iPhone

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Post by manuelabeledo »

f311a wrote: post #36
hellking4u wrote: post #30

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Doesn't Apple repair the M1 Macbooks if you take it to the Apple Store? From what I've understood, the macbook repairability issue is more to do with Apple's pricing and self-repair than the device becoming e-waste. Apple also, I think, offers trade-in for the devices, recycling the components and preventing them from becoming e-waste if the device is a total loss.

Apple replaces the whole motherboard. That’s not repair, that’s at least $1000 worth of electronics thrown away for pro max models.

They don't throw the motherboard away. It is recycled/upcycled.

If they didn't, their own warranty and repair program would be a money black hole.

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