I'm also selling upvotes.
I pay one upvote per article worth seeing more of. And one upvote for good comments.
Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
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Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#82So the comments can't be trusted much anymore...
Why were you trusting anonymous comments on the internet in the first place?
Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#83If you troll around in "New" for long enough you'll see threads where some version of this happens - though it's impossible to tell of they are bought upvotes, fake accounts made by the poster, or just friends that were asked to come and post. You'll see some mediocre SaaS thing that's posted here and on Product hunt and a bunch of comments from new users like "Wow so exciting, great job!". They usually get flagged q…
I worked for a YC company called Anima App [1] that begged us through multiple @here pings to "boost" their posts on HN, Reddit, LinkedIn, etc... It never really worked on HN, the posts would just get buried, but it did kinda work on Reddit.
Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#84I'm going to use this as an excuse to springboard off on a tangent I've been thinking a lot about. I think my social media story might be pretty common. Early on, all my social graphs across various platforms were well managed mappings of my real life friends. Today, all my social graphs are a mess. Platforms seem to push to make it easier to discover and find new friends. I want the opposite of this. I want to have…
> But it would connect us more closely with our real world social network.
But the Internet is also the real world, yes? I'm not sure trivialising Internet-based relationships is the solution to a real problem.
Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#85Site admins should "buy upvotes" a few times, at different hours of the day, and aggressively ban every account that's a repeat offender. But, really, upvotes are always easily exploitable and often lead to a sort of herd mentality among commenters. This is why Reddit is the definition of "echo chamber." HN is much better, but it would still be improved if upvotes and downvotes were done away with entirely.
I’m struggling to see how HN without voting would be anything other than a simple timeline of posts with comments. If you compare the level of “interestingness” of the front page and the first page of new, it’s night and day for me. I still go to new sometimes, but when I do, I feel like I’m doing community service to try to surface the most interesting items for the community.
I read hn through hackernews.com, which is kind of the same? Yeah it's "frontpage" only, but it works well for me. I like to scroll through everything I missed.
It would be more than difficult to figure out a way to do this without a "frontpage" but anyone who cracks that, would have me as a user.
Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#86If you troll around in "New" for long enough you'll see threads where some version of this happens - though it's impossible to tell of they are bought upvotes, fake accounts made by the poster, or just friends that were asked to come and post. You'll see some mediocre SaaS thing that's posted here and on Product hunt and a bunch of comments from new users like "Wow so exciting, great job!". They usually get flagged q…
I worked for a YC company called Anima App [1] that begged us through multiple @here pings to "boost" their posts on HN, Reddit, LinkedIn, etc... It never really worked on HN, the posts would just get buried, but it did kinda work on Reddit. [1] https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/anima-app
I wish I could dismiss this with a snarky comment but it’s probably a worthwhile spend of ~2 minutes of everyone’s time in terms of return.
Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#87that's not surprising to me. the show HN feature might bring a product out of obscurity if it hits the front page, so there's certainly an incentive.
I don't even need a Show HN, I get enough traffic just by posting comments...
Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#88that's not surprising to me. the show HN feature might bring a product out of obscurity if it hits the front page, so there's certainly an incentive.
True, but: ShowHN rarely makes it to the front page https://randomshit.dev/posts/what-gets-to-the-front-page-of-...
That's why we have this:
Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#89Site admins should "buy upvotes" a few times, at different hours of the day, and aggressively ban every account that's a repeat offender. But, really, upvotes are always easily exploitable and often lead to a sort of herd mentality among commenters. This is why Reddit is the definition of "echo chamber." HN is much better, but it would still be improved if upvotes and downvotes were done away with entirely.
Or don't ban the accounts, but secretly build a detector of posts which receive bought upvotes.
Then, don't show such posts on the frontpage.
Re: Site claims to sell upvotes on Hacker News
#90You also see it with certain companies that have a very active presence on HN. Any negative comment is downvoted aggressively. Downvoting on HN is rather uncommon, people tend to tell you why they disagree with you rather than vote you down. When it happens with some of these companies you never see that.
> people tend to tell you why they disagree with you rather than vote you down I’m not sure I agree with this. HN is probably better than most sites, but I frequently see gray comments with no responses.
I'll agree with this. I'll generally downvote if I disagree, and hope someone with a better argument will say what I don't have time/verbage for.