If the banging hasn't been heard since could the sounds be related to the vessel imploding? Oxygen tanks or similar rupturing? You'd think if the passengers were still alive they'd continue to make noise at regular intervals or at least try to bang out an S-O-S in Morse code.
Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
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Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
>What is it about this type of story that is so attention grabbing? In this particular story: Those guys are pioneers, they are doing something almost nobody has done before, like going deep down 4 kilometres under the surface of the ocean. This takes guts. And people admire those that have the guts. It is primal instinct, as the people that take risks and survive usually makes the tribe or society improve. Things th…
> Those guys are pioneers, they are doing something almost nobody has done before, like going deep down 4 kilometres under the surface of the ocean. They are rich tourists going down to look at a famous shipwreck, the same as hundreds of actual professionals have done. Much like the rich tourists who are mostly carried up Everest this does not take guts or ability, it takes a fat wallet and nothing more. Actually, it…
*Some of them are rich tourists. Paul-Henri Nargeolet is one of the people on board, has done more than 30 dives to the site since the 1980s, technically owns the rights to the ship, was in the French Navy for 20+ years, and has recovered artifacts from the site - only person to do so.
Not quite fair to call him a tourist.
Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Being in an enclosed space, knowing no one else can hear you, surrounded by people probably having a panic attack, at the bottom of the ocean in total darkness while you are slowly noticing the air getting harder and harder to breathe… yeah I would’ve taken the hull imploding over 80-something hours of that. One guy is down there with his 19yo son… empathy is a powerful thing, imagining that situation just makes my h…
> Being in an enclosed space, knowing no one else can hear you, surrounded by people probably having a panic attack, at the bottom of the ocean in total darkness while you are slowly noticing the air getting harder and harder to breathe… I had an old guy tell me about why he was claustrophobic once. Closed doors and the dark were a challenge. He got depth charged in a submarine during WWII. The lights got blown out,…
That's an incredible story. Someone had to keep their wits about them to successfully resurface. I imagine there was a lot of experience and training that saved that crew.
Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Those guys are pioneers, they are doing something almost nobody has done before, like going deep down 4 kilometres under the surface of the ocean. They are rich tourists going down to look at a famous shipwreck, the same as hundreds of actual professionals have done. Much like the rich tourists who are mostly carried up Everest this does not take guts or ability, it takes a fat wallet and nothing more. Actually, it…
*Some of them are rich tourists. Paul-Henri Nargeolet is one of the people on board, has done more than 30 dives to the site since the 1980s, technically owns the rights to the ship, was in the French Navy for 20+ years, and has recovered artifacts from the site - only person to do so. Not quite fair to call him a tourist.
Taxi driver in that case? Someone paid to take rich people around...
Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is correct, the different temperatured layers of water typically develope quite well defined borders, these border regions act like any border between mediums with differing densities: they refract and reflect waves passing through them.
Right: but even in then, you'd still be able to drop a microphone down through the layers and rapidly survey the whole thing at once. Much easier if the target is making a racket.
Good point, that could be used to the searchers advantage.
Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#86I am not even sure why we are looking for them, I don't think there is any way to setup rescue equipment that can go low enough to help them and drag that submersible out of the water before they would run out of oxygen.
The French research ship Atalante is almost there: "It carries the Victor 6000 autonomous robot, capable of descending to a depth of 6,000 metres, beyond the 3,800 metres of the wreck's position" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-send-ship-titani... Last I checked on MarineTraffic Atalante was about 100NM away from site. Would it not help?
That is good but probably one of the best/only tools for the job. It is probably already too late though.
All that is still theory, we don't even know if the submersible isn't already destroyed.
Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
They had 4 days of air When they launched. At $250k, they probably had some drinks on board for a 24 hour trip, and 3 days of no water is considered survivable. So air is most likely the limiting factor, but it's possible they messed up the drink provisions extremely badly.
Carbon dioxide levels will do them in before lack of oxygen.
Assuming they don't have filters onboard, yeah. I thought it was possible to filter out many man-days of CO2 with relatively small filters.
Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#88Maybe they can use mores code?
Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#89Mores code
Re: Banging sounds heard during Titan search, according to internal government memo
#90Wow, this is the worst possible situation, if true. They're likely to run out of breathable air long before they can be rescued. I'm hoping they make it out but, I personally would have opted for an implosion if I was in the same situation. The suffering they're enduring, if actually alive, is pretty rare. I can't imagine what is potentially going through their heads. If they are alive the 8 hour delay from Oceangate…
I don't think anyone can actually take the company to court, the passengers signed their lives away (pardon the pun), to be able to take that ride to the Titanic.
I would be curious to know if it had a backup propulsion system in case the primary failed?