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I find these types of comments interesting, have you moderated a subreddit yourself? The majority of subreddits on Reddit are moderated by moderators who only mod one or maybe a related subreddit. Quite a bit of work goes into it, especially on the more active ones. Is there anything specifically you don’t like about reddits current moderator system?
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I find these types of comments interesting, have you moderated a subreddit yourself? The majority of subreddits on Reddit are moderated by moderators who only mod one or maybe a related subreddit. Quite a bit of work goes into it, especially on the more active ones. Is there anything specifically you don’t like about reddits current moderator system?
What if I have? What if I haven't? To answer your question, yes I have, including medium sized ones.
>The majority of subreddits on Reddit are moderated by moderators who only mod one or maybe a related subreddit.
Possibly, but all of those combined probably have less users than a single median sized subreddit. Their impact, userbase, views, etc. are miniscule.
>Quite a bit of work goes into it, especially on the more active ones.
It's a tough job hammering out all dissent, shaping the narrative, and dictatorially destroying communities!
>Is there anything specifically you don’t like about reddits current moderator system?
Almost everything? How about automatically being banned from subs for posting or following wrongthink subs? How about mods arbitrarily banning and removing anything and everything because they feel like it and there's no recourse for the community, and everything is kept in the dark. A cursory look at /r/watchredditdie provides more than enough specifics about what's to dislike.
Reddit's explanation (from an admin account, /u/ModCodeofConduct) is that 'encouraging the submission of sexually explicit (18+) content in previously safe-for-work spaces' counts as 'engaging in malicious conduct' that breaks the Moderator Code of Conduct. https://twitter.com/aaronp613/status/1671298446974656514 To me it doesn't seem like they actually violated any Reddit policy or code of conduct, particularly beca…
Stares at r/worldpolitics like wtf Edit: long live r/animetitties
Seems like this thread is getting suppressed. We have front page submissions that have been around for an hour and have just 7 votes while this one is 45 minutes old and has 35. Weird and non transparent moderation decision.
Once this tsunami dies down, we'll put it back the way it was before. In the meantime, when there's significant new information (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...), we can take the penalty off. The trouble is that it's not exactly easy to tell significant new information apart from significant new drama. Plus I was offline for part of the day yesterday.
As you can see from the above HN Search link, it's not like HN has been lacking for Reddit discussion—the problem is all the other way.
Reddit's explanation (from an admin account, /u/ModCodeofConduct) is that 'encouraging the submission of sexually explicit (18+) content in previously safe-for-work spaces' counts as 'engaging in malicious conduct' that breaks the Moderator Code of Conduct. https://twitter.com/aaronp613/status/1671298446974656514 To me it doesn't seem like they actually violated any Reddit policy or code of conduct, particularly beca…
> So this is clearly just about getting back that monetization. and back that normal experience of millions of readers of those subreddits.
You're the minority and you're expecting to run the show. That's not how it works.
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I'm interested to hear why you believe a third-party app developer and multiple groups of moderators have all decided to somehow coordinate a scam against Reddit, and also why you believe Reddit is in the right here? Why is that easier to believe/agree with than the majority opinion expressed on HN?
3p app dev and mods spread narrative which doesn't stand trivial fact checking, and majority believes in what they want to believe without digging into details. > you believe Reddit is in the right here I didn't say anything like that. Reddit is private for profit company, owns platform and content and acts to maximize long term profit.
That's reddit, not any devs or mods.
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Currently they are acting in maximizing alienation of their users and maximizing the chance a viable competitor platform emerges.
they lost PR battle, everything else you said is up to discussion.
> they lost PR battle
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> So this is clearly just about getting back that monetization. and back that normal experience of millions of readers of those subreddits.
The key point that you seem to be missing is that those millions of readers voted for the mods to take the action they are taking . You're the minority and you're expecting to run the show. That's not how it works.
Seems like this thread is getting suppressed. We have front page submissions that have been around for an hour and have just 7 votes while this one is 45 minutes old and has 35. Weird and non transparent moderation decision.
I added an automatic penalty for Reddit stories a while ago because of https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... . Once this tsunami dies down, we'll put it back the way it was before. In the meantime, when there's significant new information ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... ), we can take the penalty off. The trouble is that it's not exactly easy to tell signifi…
Why change the weighting given stories on a given topic without notice?
And how do you reconcile this change with HN's long-standing policy that "We moderate HN less, not more, when YC or YC startups are the story", which is "literally the first rule of HN moderation"?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34320816>
Reiterated within the past week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36366909>
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I added an automatic penalty for Reddit stories a while ago because of https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... . Once this tsunami dies down, we'll put it back the way it was before. In the meantime, when there's significant new information ( https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... ), we can take the penalty off. The trouble is that it's not exactly easy to tell signifi…
How long ago is "a while ago"? Why change the weighting given stories on a given topic without notice? And how do you reconcile this change with HN's long-standing policy that "We moderate HN less, not more, when YC or YC startups are the story", which is "literally the first rule of HN moderation"? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34320816 > Reiterated within the past week: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3…
A few days ago.
> Why change the weighting given stories on a given topic without notice?
We don't give notice about that kind of thing.
> And how do you reconcile this change with HN's long-standing policy
It follows it strictly. HN has had over 500 threads about Reddit, containing over 25,000 comments, in the 3 weeks since this kerfuffle went kablooey. (And that's just the threads with "reddit" in the title - there have been plenty more.) For any other topic that repetitive and drama-filled, we would have penalized it much more and much earlier.
The rule is that we moderate less, not more, when YC or a YC startup is the story. Note the word "less". We still moderate, we just do it less—and we've done it way less on this Reddit tsunami than we otherwise would have. In fact we probably went too far in the other direction.
I mean just look at those search results: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateEnd=1687485600&dateRange=custom&.... That is nuts, way over the top, and not at all standard practice for HN. The idea (if anyone is entertaining it) that we've somehow suppressed this story is pretty silly when it's one of the most-discussed (and most repetitively, and indignantly) topics of all time.
If there's significant new information, you'd be welcome to let us know at hn@ycombinator.com so we can take a look. I didn't see significant new information at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36434885, and I certainly didn't see a substantively different discussion in the HN comments - merely the same rehash.