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Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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I don't think the delete function actually deletes anything. At best sets a flag. If i wrote public forum software, that's how I would do it and batch delete only comments that no one asked to undelete in at least a few months...

I doubt that is GDPR-compliant.

A 30-day lag in deletion is compliant IF you communicate that that's what you do (i.e. write that down in your privacy policy).

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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This is crazy! I like the following comment on kbin: > I said it before and I say it again: if you have the patience to do so then make sure you overwrite your content with chatgpt generated content, as the future AI that will feed on your post HATE feeding on already AI generated stuff. It makes the AI diverge. People should not be deleting their posts but actually just replacing them with random AI generated conten…

They own deleted data too. If I would be selling this data I would just cleanup all edits and deletes starting from a few weeks ago to a time when the Internet gets bored with the drama.

In modern chaotic world usually the best weapon against something you don't like is to just ignore it (there are exceptions of course).

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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What if that content includes personal data about me? My hopes, dreams, preferences, plans, goals and political opinions?

What if it does? I am not under the impression that those fall under PII/GDPR (IANAL), so if you post that stuff online to a site you do not control, it certainly has the potential to remain there. And that is the heart of one the problems with reddit or any other site that encourages people to post everything under the sun. You are giving up control of what then happens with your content.

GDPR protects any data which can be tied to an identifiable person. So, if reddit posts are attached to my username, and my username can ultimately be tied back to me (see: my username is my name), then reddit cannot disallow deletion of these posts. There may be a workaround by no longer identifying them with a specific user, but this would have to be done on the back end, as simply changing who the displayed user is would still leave the data intact.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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And they will get a reasonable answer that reddit doesn't store personal information beyond what it needs to operate. It's technically impossible to identify correct personal information in users' posts.

Post something personal, then put in a 1st GDPR request and ask for all the servers (and their jurisdictions), all the backups, all the 3rd parties with access related to the post itself. Then ask for the security certifications and GDPR policies of each entity named. Then ask the company to delete the post for you in a 3rd GDPR request.

Wouldn't it be classified as an abuse of process?

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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I really think they are just misunderstanding something. When I look at my profile, there's no comments, but I know there should be some. Isn't it more likely that when a subreddit you posted in goes private, the comments don't show up. The people in the linked thread ran the delete script after some subreddits went private. Now when some are made public again, so are their comments. Comments that were never deleted…

I used Power Delete Suite to remove all comments from all public and private subs. They all came back today. So I re-deleted them again. I suspect it's more likely the site didn't process the deletions properly, rather than maliciously bringing them back, or as you suggest, that they were private. Edit: It's possible that the deletion only worked on public posts, after all, it seems?

I did the same a week ago, deleting fifteen years worth and several thousand comments using Shreddit, by editing and deleting, however mine have not been restored, so I doubt this was some kind of broad action.

I very much doubt Reddit cares at all about the small number of us that have done this.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Post something personal, then put in a 1st GDPR request and ask for all the servers (and their jurisdictions), all the backups, all the 3rd parties with access related to the post itself. Then ask for the security certifications and GDPR policies of each entity named. Then ask the company to delete the post for you in a 3rd GDPR request.

Wouldn't it be classified as an abuse of process?

no such concept in the law

you can have some real fun with companies with it

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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This is crazy! I like the following comment on kbin: > I said it before and I say it again: if you have the patience to do so then make sure you overwrite your content with chatgpt generated content, as the future AI that will feed on your post HATE feeding on already AI generated stuff. It makes the AI diverge. People should not be deleting their posts but actually just replacing them with random AI generated conten…

Even that won't work because there are companies like Pushshift (I think it's pushshift anyway) that are constantly archiving comments, so they have the old comment and the overwritten one. I think you can request pushshift delete your data under GDPR so at least you can remove your data from there, but I believe they are not the only ones doing this.

Seems like a game of whack-a-mole. A person might get Reddit and Pushshift to delete their comments, but surely there are other less well-known companies mirroring Reddit. Maybe even clandestinely.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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Does this comply with GDPR?

I would like to say yes but, if it's a comment being restored containing personally identifiable information of the person that deleted it than I would say no. With that said I believe you need to have a formal request to remove PII and I have some doubts if deleting or obfuscating a reddit comment you made qualifies as such.

The username attached to the post is almost certainly PII. Unless they're anonymising the post, they're definitely running afoul of GDPR.

This, of course, assumes this is intentional action, which I'm not wholly convinced of. Malice, incompetence, and all that.

Re: Reddit appears to be restoring edited/deleted comments

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I really think they are just misunderstanding something. When I look at my profile, there's no comments, but I know there should be some. Isn't it more likely that when a subreddit you posted in goes private, the comments don't show up. The people in the linked thread ran the delete script after some subreddits went private. Now when some are made public again, so are their comments. Comments that were never deleted…

Also important to note that this is an indicator that Reddit has lost all trust from (this part of) the community. Even if that is a plausible explanations, many will not give Reddit's current management the benefit of doubt. I simply would not put it past Hoffman to be that petty that he would do it, he seems to be taking after Musk more and more lately. Wasted so much goodwill. That will be tough to navigate for th…

The adage that “If you’re not paying for it, you’re the product” cuts both ways.

Musk and Hoffman seem to be intent on waging war with their own product. They both get a lot of unpaid labour producing their content and then complain that the unpaid labour isn’t paying for the privilege.

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