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Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by ShellfishMeme »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #31
idiotsecant wrote: post #12

It seems to me like this is turning into a subreddit migration in slow motion. A lot people still want to post content and a lot of people still want to read content, so what's happening is people are posting it to the less popular 'alternative' versions of the popular subreddits and those posts make the frontpage instead. It seems like there is a noticeable decline in quality but i'm still seeing quite a bit of post…

It's because the Reddit users that are actually bothered by this are unmonetizable and everyone knows it. nobody is eager to jump into that sink hole and Reddit itself is happy to be free of it. A Reddit alternative is something every developer on here thinks they can crank out in a weekend and surely countless of them are actually trying that right now. But the reality is that reddit is a mess and nobody in their ri…

They would be perfectly monetizable if they wanted to. I'd happily pay for a Reddit premium subscription if I can keep using Apollo, because I use it for the better UX, not to skip ads. But clearly they would rather kill third party apps than take their money.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by crazygringo »

Now that the initial 48 hours have passed, I would expect Reddit to override this at any moment now.

Any subreddits which had not been private previously will revert back to public and the ability to change from public to private will be temporarily disabled.

It's one thing for management to wait out 48h (doable), it's another thing to wait out something "indefinite".

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by boredtofears »

ShellfishMeme wrote: post #63
rblatz wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also most people don’t really care about the API/3rd party app thing. It doesn’t impact them and it looks from the outside like a bunch of dorks with no lives getting worked up over nothing. I’ve been on Reddit since the digg migration and I’ve never felt the need for an app, old.reddit.com and Adblock works perfectly fine on the phone. Better than Reddit’s mobile site.

I wouldn't call the user experience "perfectly fine" though. It's about as "perfectly fine" for exploring the content on a phone as pasta with ketchup is perfectly fine for eating. You won't starve but you also aren't really having a good time.

Strongly disagree. It's just a plain old HTML website pretty much the same as hacker news (no coincidence that it's built in the same era).

Completely fine for reading purposes and mostly free of all the UX "optimizations" for ads and such.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by adeon »

idiotsecant wrote: post #12

It seems to me like this is turning into a subreddit migration in slow motion. A lot people still want to post content and a lot of people still want to read content, so what's happening is people are posting it to the less popular 'alternative' versions of the popular subreddits and those posts make the frontpage instead. It seems like there is a noticeable decline in quality but i'm still seeing quite a bit of post…

I think even though there is no consensus on the next Reddit, this might be another inflection point in Reddit downhill. It might not die on short term but I think being super crappy to your userbase makes you more vulnerable to future competition. I'm thinking something like what Tiktok did to Instagram or Facebook.

I am really hoping the next Reddit is not some megacorp effort.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by mc32 »

idiotsecant wrote: post #12

It seems to me like this is turning into a subreddit migration in slow motion. A lot people still want to post content and a lot of people still want to read content, so what's happening is people are posting it to the less popular 'alternative' versions of the popular subreddits and those posts make the frontpage instead. It seems like there is a noticeable decline in quality but i'm still seeing quite a bit of post…

I wonder if that will affect the management of the subs. Some mods had what we may call agendas but mods in alternate subs may have different agendas (obviously since one is protesting and the other not), but this could also affect the course of subs and could differ from what people were used to (hammer the nail that sticks out vs oil the squeaky wheel approaches)

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by bbor »

blahyawnblah wrote: post #66
ndnxncncnfjdjd wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's all well and good for now, but surely you can see that old.reddit.com is likely also on the chopping block?

Where did you see that?

Seems self-explanatory. They're fighting for profitability, prioritizing mass-appeal, prioritizing ads, and maintaining two UIs in an advertising business sounds like a huge hassle. I'm too lazy to edit the URL so I don't even know - does old.reddit.com even support the giant image ads?

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by lmkg »

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #31
idiotsecant wrote: post #12

It seems to me like this is turning into a subreddit migration in slow motion. A lot people still want to post content and a lot of people still want to read content, so what's happening is people are posting it to the less popular 'alternative' versions of the popular subreddits and those posts make the frontpage instead. It seems like there is a noticeable decline in quality but i'm still seeing quite a bit of post…

It's because the Reddit users that are actually bothered by this are unmonetizable and everyone knows it. nobody is eager to jump into that sink hole and Reddit itself is happy to be free of it. A Reddit alternative is something every developer on here thinks they can crank out in a weekend and surely countless of them are actually trying that right now. But the reality is that reddit is a mess and nobody in their ri…

> It's because the Reddit users that are actually bothered by this are unmonetizable and everyone knows it.

The Reddit users that are bothered by this also include mods that use third-party tools for moderation activities. If those users leave, or are no longer about to function, that has potential long-term consequences for Reddit.

Re: Reddit’s blackout protest is set to continue indefinitely

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Post by ahahahahah »

iameli wrote: post #19

The biggest Reddit communities are in open rebellion. Twitter is, charitably, a mess. Twitch started taking a full 50% of the revenue of their top creators, who are furious. What's going on? What's the bigger trend that's causing all these platforms to go so user-hostile?

> The biggest Reddit communities are in open rebellion

No, the __mods__ of __some__ of the biggest Reddit communities are in rebellion. Of the top 20 subreddits by subscribers, only 6 are currently closed. For the most part, the users of those subreddits dgaf about this issue, and even if the mods hold these subreddits hostage forever, the users will just move on to some similar subreddit that will take its place. The only loss here will be in smaller subreddits where some mod takes their toys home and nobody cares enough to start up something similar, and in that case, it's honestly not a big loss to reddit.

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