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The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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I mod three niche communities on Reddit. Two are for sites I own and run, and the third is for TTRPG generators. I made the first two private with no intention of making them public again. The third I'm not comfortable making unilateral decisions on, so I'm just un-modding myself for it. Now I'm considering starting up old-school forums to replace the first two subreddits. It would be a lot of work to manage them ove…

Fully under your control and fully on your dime. Your traffic may be low enough where it's not all that expensive. But it is on your dime. Then again, that appears to be the future of Reddit, doesn't it? I've never created a subreddit but from what I've been able to gather you all are using tools to assist with your moderator duties and now those tools are going to have to pay Reddit for API access, meaning soon enou…

I already have infrastructure that it could be put on. Assuming the traffic remains low, that doesn't worry me.

I've decided to go ahead and do it. Now I'm looking at my options. Flarum and Lemmy seem reasonable.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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> Its going to slightly accelerate the migration of some communities to Discord I wish they'd at least try Discourse first. Discord is where knowledge goes to die.

Discourse and similar traditional forum style platforms have horrible UX. The fact that topic replies are presented sequentially and not as nested threads makes large topics downright miserable to navigate, and responses almost impossible to follow. And I will die on this hill, I don't care how many grizzled old timers try to tell me this is better. I'm not a zoomer who doesn't remember the internet pre-2010, I've be…

UX matters. Nested threads are huge for good UX.

I recommended Discourse for it's overall approachability and lack of confidence in my ability to convince a community moving to Discord to something more complicated.

People don't like upfront investment for longer term gains so sequential is a way easier sell.

I guess I'm saying my Discourse recommendation is damage control much like a tourniquet and not my ideal.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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A few hard truths - No alternative is going to show up which can host anywhere near the amount of traffic that reddit receives/received. That takes a lot more money than any new contender can drum up. - reddit isn't going to decide it no longer wants to make a profit - A lot of users are going to wander back over to post-blackout replacement subreddits - A lot of communities are just going to disappear. It breaks my…

There is a base alternative, which I'm going to choose, and that's just to use social media less. Not going back to Reddit even if another alternative doesn't pop up.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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The thing about alt subs is that you quickly figure out why they're alternatives and not mainstream, and it rarely has anything to do with promotion. I'd add that the very act of promotion changes a small sub into a giant, unwieldy one very quickly. e.g. Look at anime_titties, the ill-named main alternative to News and Worldnews, and tell me if you can see a problem with that being promoted. I sure can.

for every titties there are 20 other news subs that are just not gaining traction. You only see titties because it's sufficiently differentiated from the news subreddit

The same is true for all of the other alts, they tend to be either minimally moderated, and/or full of ideologues who are too toxic for anything else.

That's not a winning formula.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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I wonder if there is an opportunity for some grassroots data liberation from Discord. I.e. if a tool that allows admins / users to scrape and mirror discord server data somewhere. Also how come there is no more open, not CCP-aligned Discord alternative yet?

Isn't that what matrix is?

hmm is there a way to access Discord through Matrix?

I meant not replacing Discord but rather connecting to it / siphoning the user-generated data to a more open place

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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There's serious usability & scalability issues with existing federation right now, but these traditional social platforms killing 3P clients is a huge boon for federated ecosystems. Just look at Tweetbot-- which used to be considered one of the best UX for Twitter-- and how it's transformed into Ivory. I'm hoping that a 3P developer brings some of their UX skills to Lemmy or Kbin, which would be really beneficial for…

I would love to contribute. I don't know much about federated ecosystems, though. If you do, could you point me to the right direction? (Google is shit as you know.) I installed Matrix and Synapse to my local server, but the installation process is not good, and the usability is bad. Clients are super buggy. Unusable, basically, as information got lost all the time. I'm a game designer and a low-level game engine pro…

Check out join-lemmy.org for Lemmy instances to join. You should be able to find more info there, or at least ask for more.

Re: The end of Reddit? Why the blackout is still going – and what happens next

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When you send out a memo telling employees not to wear clothes that show your company's name and brand, that's how you know you're making good changes right?

dominion voting systems may have sent out a similar memo to their employees. the company was definitely not the one doing bad in that case. it's often the case that there's some group that is irrationally upset at some company, the company warning it's employees about the risks of that doesn't seem to reflect anything but good on the company.
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