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“Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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It seems baffling that we have this massive community making mods with highly insecure raw java code, and somehow nobody thought of figuring out how to sandbox the stuff.

What's amazing to me is you have an entire modscene of young or amateur programmers uploading binary code to god-knows-where and this is the first time this sort of thing has happened (that I can recall) What's the security like on Steam workshop? Or Nexusmods? Gaming and modding is still rife with lots of little "here download my exe from this forum post and give it a run please". Pretty much every game I play modde…

It's more amazing when seasoned devs do it all the time with their IDE plugins (VSC, etc) and it raises zero eyebrows.

Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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It seems baffling that we have this massive community making mods with highly insecure raw java code, and somehow nobody thought of figuring out how to sandbox the stuff.

Funnily enough, it would simply never work on a mobile OS — it’s the desktop OSs that are at the optimistic 90s levels of security, still.

Not for long, since EU is mandating sideloading most games will bypass security checks on mobile too.

Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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Funnily enough, it would simply never work on a mobile OS — it’s the desktop OSs that are at the optimistic 90s levels of security, still.

Not for long, since EU is mandating sideloading most games will bypass security checks on mobile too.

That’s absolutely false — sideloading has nothing to do with security checks, especially not sandboxing.

A sane system should not be compromised no matter where the executable is from.

Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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post #83

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Not for long, since EU is mandating sideloading most games will bypass security checks on mobile too.

That’s absolutely false — sideloading has nothing to do with security checks, especially not sandboxing. A sane system should not be compromised no matter where the executable is from.

> A sane system should not be compromised no matter where the executable is from.

So, you're saying a sane system should not run arbitrary code I tell it to run? Which is different from iOS security model how?

(If not, please explain how your hypothetical magic OS resists compromise without limiting instructions it would execute)

Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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> Anti-sandbox tricks > Something not commonly seen in JVM malware that is present here is a class titled VMEscape. It checks if its in a sandboxed windows environment by checking if the current user is WDAGUtilityAccount, which is part of the Windows Defender Application Guard. If this condition is met, an attempt to escape the sandbox system is made. > The process is roughly as follows: > - Start a repeating thread…

kind of reminds me of the very subtle malware found in a modified version of a bitcoin wallet that would lay low but when you copy-paste a BTC address in the recepient field, the malware replaces the clipboard with their own address in hopes you don't check it twice But only if the user has a high balance on their own wallet. At least one person fell for this when they made a small test-transfer which went through bu…

Wow, that is nasty. I would actually fall for that, I never thought of double checking copy/pasted data, only in cases I copied something similar before and I want to make sure I really did press copy.

Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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This is one of the (several) modern trends of computing that I dislike severely. There are lights for all kinds of nonsense but actually useful information, like Wifi status, disk activity, and even POWER ON/OFF are removed for some misdirected sense of minimalism or style.

We didn't have rainmeter back when hard drives were used as boot drives. I have a pretty large set of windows performance monitor and HWInfo readouts running on all of my windows machines with modified versions of the simpleperfmeter and now rainformer skins. No need to have uncontrolled diagnostic feedback when you can make it be exactly what you want in a much more rich/dense format. Clicking doesn't tell you much…

All of that presumes that your system isn't already infected with malware that causes your monitoring software to lie to you.

The beauty of the LEDs is that they were directly electrically connected which means they were unaffected by malware in any way.

Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

kind of reminds me of the very subtle malware found in a modified version of a bitcoin wallet that would lay low but when you copy-paste a BTC address in the recepient field, the malware replaces the clipboard with their own address in hopes you don't check it twice But only if the user has a high balance on their own wallet. At least one person fell for this when they made a small test-transfer which went through bu…

At the last Advent of Code there was a person whose solution didn't pass because a part of their input was replaced by a dogecoin address https://old.reddit.com/r/adventofcode/comments/zb98pn/2022_d...

Also here, what appeared to be a bug in ImGuis clipboard handling turned out to be a crypto stealer

https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/issues/4029

Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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post #63
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> Anti-sandbox tricks > Something not commonly seen in JVM malware that is present here is a class titled VMEscape. It checks if its in a sandboxed windows environment by checking if the current user is WDAGUtilityAccount, which is part of the Windows Defender Application Guard. If this condition is met, an attempt to escape the sandbox system is made. > The process is roughly as follows: > - Start a repeating thread…

kind of reminds me of the very subtle malware found in a modified version of a bitcoin wallet that would lay low but when you copy-paste a BTC address in the recepient field, the malware replaces the clipboard with their own address in hopes you don't check it twice But only if the user has a high balance on their own wallet. At least one person fell for this when they made a small test-transfer which went through bu…

if you read the breakdown of the disassembly the minecraft malware does this too!

Re: “Fractureiser” malware in popular Minecraft mods and modpacks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of the (several) modern trends of computing that I dislike severely. There are lights for all kinds of nonsense but actually useful information, like Wifi status, disk activity, and even POWER ON/OFF are removed for some misdirected sense of minimalism or style.

my issue with them is i don't need my house lit up like a christmas tree at 2am in the morning when everything is "off", i've never found having a flashing light a great way of troubleshooting when there's a lot better tools to measure disk or network usage anyway.

Why would the disk activity or "power on" lights be "on" if "everything is "off"" though
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