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Spot on! :) But we already have it on the roadmap as one of our next items to clean that up properly and migrate away from it
I would suggest dropping the "you can use == or = interchangeably" since I doubt that adds as much value as "future syntax risk" it incurs
Launch HN: Fastgen (YC W23) – Visual Low-Code Backend Builder
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Re: Launch HN: Fastgen (YC W23) – Visual Low-Code Backend Builder
#82I see the "visual" aspect of the low-code movement in the frontend, but not on the backend. For the backend, my pain point is setting up a whole project for a small task (for example, I need to process a webhook from provider X; it is just saving some fields of the payload to a given DB table). In this case, I would prefer a "platform" to quickly code and deploy these tasks. The value here is not the ease of coding,…
We absolutely agree that a large part of the value prop is about the ease of the project setup and deployment rather than just simplifying the coding process.
That said, we do believe that the visual aspect brings benefits to backend development as well. While traditional coding requires a level of abstract thought to envisage data flow and logic, visual tools offer a concrete representation that can make this process more intuitive. This can help developers to better understand and manage complex workflows, data relationships, and API structures, which in turn can boost productivity and reduce errors.
Additionally, our hypothesis is that it offers a way for non-technical team members like PM & BI roles or even clients, to contribute more effectively. By visualizing workflows, logic, and data models, people can improve communication, minimize misunderstandings, and contribute to a better final product.
However if you still prefer coding, we have a Custom Code Action on the roadmap that will let you do exactly that and still benefit from some of the guardrails we provide.
Re: Launch HN: Fastgen (YC W23) – Visual Low-Code Backend Builder
#83Pricing is crazy. team plan with 2 million actions ($300 is already expensive for this) + $29k? This is not realistic in any way.
In the end, is suspect none of these tools will be able to gatekeep hosting (especially with outrageous rates). The dev process is their key offering, not hosting. The moat on hosting will be nil, totally commoditized. If they were totally charitable, this would be an open source tool letting people export stuff. Anybody could build that, and someone probably will.
Re: Launch HN: Fastgen (YC W23) – Visual Low-Code Backend Builder
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My password manager is faster and easier (and the email flows tend to make that slower, hidden behind a "login with another method" small grey link), email often has deliverability delays, and it's insecure to boot.
I can second that. I prefer password logins over magic links via email. It adds too much friction. I can understand that it might be easier for people who are not using a password manager. For most services I prefer a combination of password and authy-based 2FA. For very specific purposes, some kind of hardware-based authentication, for example with yubikeys makes sense.
Re: Launch HN: Fastgen (YC W23) – Visual Low-Code Backend Builder
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can second that. I prefer password logins over magic links via email. It adds too much friction. I can understand that it might be easier for people who are not using a password manager. For most services I prefer a combination of password and authy-based 2FA. For very specific purposes, some kind of hardware-based authentication, for example with yubikeys makes sense.
Magic links are great because they essentially eliminate ATO attacks and allow startups to bypass SAML requirements by delegating to the mail provider. I’m 100% willing to forgo efficiency gains of passwords and managers as both a user and developer.
They kinda increase the blast radius of an ATO attack on your email account, though.
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#87Re: Launch HN: Fastgen (YC W23) – Visual Low-Code Backend Builder
#88Pricing is crazy. team plan with 2 million actions ($300 is already expensive for this) + $29k? This is not realistic in any way.
As a point of comparison - cloudflare workers costs 0.30$ for the same (2 million) requests, plus a 5$ monthly fee. If my math is correct, in their eyes the visual aspect is worth 100,000x as much? edit: it's actually 200,000x, the cloudflare base fee includes 1 million requests. Is it possible that they added an extra couple zeros?
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#90Body validation is too simple, for example I want the be able to configure the min max from the DB or interdependent validation i.e. if you pass in and Id and a search string I want to return an error. The DB Query editor is too simple requiring the user to manually create sql queries rather than visually build them. The DB editor doesn't allow foreign keys and complex DB relationships to be defined visually as well.…