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Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by tracker1 »

chimeracoder wrote: post #55
giobox wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I think the app and service has gotten much worse in several ways post-Elon, I do see way less crypto spam than before FWIW. The "For You" tab now actually sometimes even surfaces tweets I'm interested in too now. Performance and general stability has absolutely fallen for me though, and the launch of the DeSantis campaign on Twitter was a technical embarrassment/disaster as far as I could tell.

> While I think the app and service has gotten much worse in several ways post-Elon, I do see way less crypto spam than before FWIW Cryptocurrency spam has declined simply because the cryptocurrency markets have tanked. Overall spam is way, way worse than before, and it's shockingly low-effort. My DMs are absolutely useless - just chock full of obvious bot accounts who want to "date" me and just need me to click a li…

I just block any follows or messages from obvious bots... it's a low signal, but with enough doing the same, it's better. I do wish there was a separate "block spammer/scammer" button as well, as trying to report anything is just frustrating. VS blocking someone I find toxic to interact with imo, shouldn't negatively effect them nearly as much as an account that's a scammer/spammer.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by mthoms »

olalonde wrote: post #75
likeafox wrote: post #67

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>However, this was not an oversight but a conscious decision, underscoring his commitment to uphold freedom of speech over profits. Why did the same commitment to speech over profit not apply to his decision making when he filtered Substack, or Mastadon URLs?

My understanding is that Elon is mainly interested in eliminating ideologically and politically motivated censorship. He has recently given an interview on what he calls the "woke mind virus"[0], in which he talks about his views on free speech. Banning links to a Twitter competitor would not necessarily be inconsistent with this objective. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEaTk--tZo

It's certainly not consistent with being a "free speech absolutist", which was the descriptor he gave himself.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by onemorething1 »

theprincess wrote: post #77
stoptrlling wrote: post #58

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I'm curious to know what sorts of things you were thinking about when you wrote this. The tone of it reads as emotional and defensive rather than informative. It would probably contribute more to the discussion if you expressed your own ideas rather than attempting to pre-empt the ideas of others by listing them in bullet point format. Wouldn't you agree? :3

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Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by olalonde »

mthoms wrote: post #80
olalonde wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He cut Twitter's expenses significantly while avoiding reliability issues (a feat that debunked several predictions by tech "experts" on HN about potential major outages) and while adding several new useful features. Admittedly, his decision to unban several controversial figures was debatable from a business standpoint, at least in the short term. However, this was not an oversight but a conscious decision, based on…

>his commitment to uphold freedom of speech over profits For your consideration, here's some evidence to the contrary. Twitter now agrees to 80% of censorship requests from various governments vs 50% previously. >Twitter’s acquiescence to autocratic or non-liberal regimes is not an exaggeration by critics of the social network. [...] Since Musk’s takeover, the company has received 971 requests from governments (compa…

My understanding is that Elon's position is to defer to the law regarding speech. So it would make sense that censorship is increasing in some countries while decreasing in others. In the US, Twitter was previously censoring a lot of legal speech and I believe that's what mostly concerned him.

Edit: I perhaps used "free speech" a bit ambiguously in the previous comment. I edited it to "principles" to avoid causing more debate about semantics.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by tracker1 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #8

I don’t want to scrape, but at these price points, small projects where I only need basic user profile data are simply more cost effective with scraping. Some very dumb decisions with their API pricing. How do you go from $0 to $100 to $5,000?

The site doesn't mention how many profile lookups are allowed per month at the given tiers... how many user profiles are you looking up? Does this include tweets/retweets?

As for the pricing, it's likely they really don't want anyone unlikely to hit the upper tier to even try developing against their APIs to begin with.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by olalonde »

mthoms wrote: post #82
olalonde wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is that Elon is mainly interested in eliminating ideologically and politically motivated censorship. He has recently given an interview on what he calls the "woke mind virus"[0], in which he talks about his views on free speech. Banning links to a Twitter competitor would not necessarily be inconsistent with this objective. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFEaTk--tZo

It's certainly not consistent with being a "free speech absolutist", which was the descriptor he gave himself.

The first definition I found on "free speech absolutist":

> Free speech absolutists believe that any limitation on political speech is veering into dangerous territory. They believe that restricting free speech in any way, including curbing insulting or factually incorrect speech, means assigning gatekeepers who decide what can and cannot be expressed in public.

Twitter's censorship policy does seem to have moved in that direction in general.

But I grant you that the terms are a bit overloaded and it's not always clear what people mean by them.

PS: Edited "free speech" to "principles" since it was causing much debate about semantics.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by olalonde »

kibwen wrote: post #73
olalonde wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He cut Twitter's expenses significantly while avoiding reliability issues (a feat that debunked several predictions by tech "experts" on HN about potential major outages) and while adding several new useful features. Admittedly, his decision to unban several controversial figures was debatable from a business standpoint, at least in the short term. However, this was not an oversight but a conscious decision, based on…

Twitter has been falling over during even moderate load this year, and completely crapped out last night during Musk's embarrassing soiree for Ron DeSantis. Musk is a bootlicking clown who deserves every bit of mockery he gets.

Twitter didn't "completely" crap out. There was a slight hiccup when a Twitter Space event was delayed by 20 minutes as engineers worked to accommodate the unexpected load. But speaking from personal experience as a daily Twitter user, I've noticed no significant issues post-takeover.

This type of exaggeration perfectly illustrates the mainstream media's tendency to perpetuate misinformation about Twitter. It contributes to the false narrative that Elon's stewardship is 'destroying' Twitter, which is far from reality.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by Balgair »

Aside: Elon's got this all wrong. The checkmarks and other pricing tiers only weed out the dupes and conmen.

Traditionally, a list of people that are dumb enough to do really dumb things and that have disposable income is very valuable. Having a list of known rubes isn't something you share, for free, to anyone. You charge a lot of money for that list, usually.

But here's Elon, just giving away that list for anyone to see.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by kibwen »

olalonde wrote: post #87
kibwen wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter has been falling over during even moderate load this year, and completely crapped out last night during Musk's embarrassing soiree for Ron DeSantis. Musk is a bootlicking clown who deserves every bit of mockery he gets.

Twitter didn't "completely" crap out. There was a slight hiccup when a Twitter Space event was delayed by 20 minutes as engineers worked to accommodate the unexpected load. But speaking from personal experience as a daily Twitter user, I've noticed no significant issues post-takeover. This type of exaggeration perfectly illustrates the mainstream media's tendency to perpetuate misinformation about Twitter. It contrib…

Using "the mainstream media" as a bogeyman was tired 20 years ago, and it's even more tired these days. We can view Elon Musk's own depredations plainly on Twitter itself, with no "mainstream media" involved, and the evidence of Twitter's decline (that just so happens to correlate with Musk's takeover) can be observed directly on Twitter as well, with blue-checked right wing fruitcakes boosted to the top of every timeline, shrieking about trans people and "white replacement" in an attempt to foment violent hatred against the current crop of undesirables. But please, continue to delude yourself into thinking that "mainstream" media is the problem here.

Re: Twitter launches new Pro tier for $5000/month

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Post by dirtyid »

Hopefully this means feedly pro can support twitter integration again. In mean time, anyway aware of working method to turn tweets from a public list into a daily email digest? A couple methods I use to depend on died with API access gone. Or any app that reads a twitter list via TTS.
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