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I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by icebraining »

esm23 wrote: post #70

I'm currently building a social media news aggregation site, and was considering the merits of using a Facebook/Twitter only login/comment services. Do you believe most potential users would be opposed to this? If using these services we would be very clear about privacy issues and options,giving our users the option of restricting their activities to our network, and not sharing the information with facebook/twitter…

Why limit yourself to only those options? Put them in a prominent position if you want, but provide some way to login with user/pass, Google, OpenID (my favorite) or whatever.

Personally, I like StackExchange's model: http://i.imgur.com/7iAgB.png

It gives you some default options, but it still has that "Show more login options …" link for people who don't like them.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by Animus7 »

billforsternz wrote: post #64
joering2 wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont know how much of value I can bring here, but I can tell you what would make me love Facebook (love opposite to hate). If they would charge me $5/month for an account BUT give me fair, solid and reasonable TOS that I own my data and they DONT make money off of my eyeballs and clicks under some sort of a penalty. And throw an Independent Board of Facebook Policy-makers so its not that one hacker own majority of…

So you dislike Facebook making money of your eyeballs and clicks so much you'd pay money every month to prevent that. I don't understand this attitude at all. I couldn't care less how much money anyone else makes from my eyeballs and clicks. What am I missing here ?

What if according to facebook, the brands you like correlate with mortgage default? And they sold that data to your bank, so now you can't get that house you wanted?

That's what you're missing.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by arjn »

zak_mc_kracken wrote: post #30

Create a fake, empty Facebook account, use it everywhere to log in. Problem solved.

Not really. I don't want to have any kind of FB/Twitter/etc. account. I hate being forced to use it and that has kept me from using several apps/services

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by SkyMarshal »

barrkel wrote: post #71
chimeracoder wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its amusing how quickly people seem to have forgotten about Beacon - seems like we've set ourselves up for another privacy disaster of similar scale - or perhaps worse.

Who's forgotten about it? I adblock at the request level everything from the facebook or fbcdn domains in my primary browser. I don't let FB get anything from my normal browsing.

What do you use to do that?

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by neuromancer2600 »

I usually use a fake Facebook account (with a couple of other fake friends) first. And only after I see how the app is behaving and if I see a real benefit to give access to my real friends, I might consider logging in with my real name and Facebook account.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by SquareWheel »

gabaix wrote: post #76
melissamiranda wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, point more than proven.

Mark Zuckerberg's perceived public figure does not inspire confidence either. His first actions with Facebook and the story around The Social Network have tainted Facebook for good. Note this might be far from his real personality. People I know at Facebook love him.

I'm not sure that's true, I think The Social Network actually spun him in a positive light. I found public opinion of him improved overall.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by sontek »

barrkel wrote: post #71
chimeracoder wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its amusing how quickly people seem to have forgotten about Beacon - seems like we've set ourselves up for another privacy disaster of similar scale - or perhaps worse.

Who's forgotten about it? I adblock at the request level everything from the facebook or fbcdn domains in my primary browser. I don't let FB get anything from my normal browsing.

What do you use for that?

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by tallanvor »

esm23 wrote: post #70

I'm currently building a social media news aggregation site, and was considering the merits of using a Facebook/Twitter only login/comment services. Do you believe most potential users would be opposed to this? If using these services we would be very clear about privacy issues and options,giving our users the option of restricting their activities to our network, and not sharing the information with facebook/twitter…

Requiring Facebook/Twitter/etc integration - even just for authentication - is a deal breaker no matter what your privacy policy says. I don't trust any company to manage my identity, nor do I want any company trying to do so.

Obviously many people are willing to use their Facebook or other accounts as credentials, but you will lose potential users/customers by making it mandatory. I don't know how many, but it's something you should consider.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by nyar »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #84
barrkel wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who's forgotten about it? I adblock at the request level everything from the facebook or fbcdn domains in my primary browser. I don't let FB get anything from my normal browsing.

What do you use to do that?

Adblock plus, most likely, coupled with Antisocial filter and custom rules.

Re: I would rather drink piss like Bear Grylls than log in with Facebook

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Post by dikbrouwer »

franze wrote: post #79
waleedka wrote: post #57

Before blaming the 50% drop-off on Facebook, you should measure the drop-off of the ID/password approach and compare the two. I would expect the drop-off for any login method to be relatively high on mobile apps. Anyone has data they can share?

i know the stats of some websites(or webapps if you like to call them as such) which started years ago with user/pass and after integrating fb got a major better sign-up rate. most logged-in users now use the site via fb. either mobile is majorly different, the tinyreview adopter group is majorly different, their product is majorly different or their analysis is flawed (as you have pointed out correctly)

FYI, here is another perspective on FB Connect signup: http://damurillo.tumblr.com/post/9214057988/disappointment-w...
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