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Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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I get so tired of seeing yegg raked over the coals for this one. A search engine by definition takes an editorial stance on things. They take in all of the internet and decide what to present to users. For a search engine to take no editorial position is to yield the floor to whoever can best game the system, and a propaganda machine like Russia's is absolutely capable of exploiting a search engine that doesn't proac…

They could simply add a “propaganda” tag and give an option to filter out the search results marked with that tag. If anything I can specifically search for Russian propaganda, for whatever reason.

Yes, you can, and downranking propaganda wouldn't stop it from turning up if you go looking.

But when my naive sister-in-law hears something about how Ukraine isn't a real country, I don't want the first page of results for "history of Ukraine" to turn up Russian propaganda.

I live in a red state, and there are astonishing numbers of people here who already buy Putin's story. I'm fully behind DDG deciding they didn't want to play a role in spreading his message even further.

Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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For anyone curious, the best search market share data is from Cloudflare. Here is the latest report: https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/searchengines-2023-q1 . And here is our reasoning of why it is the best: https://spreadprivacy.com/search-engine-market-share-data-tw...

Would be nice if you could ask the DDG team to cite the links you provided as footnotes to your claim "DuckDuckGo owns the #2 position in mobile market share in the US, and 18 other markets ..." in TFA.

Good point, will do that.

Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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Much of the "antivax garbage" turned out to be true. In hindsight, do you still believe that censoring true but inconvenient information is morally acceptable?

How much? Do you have any links to discussions or data that were against covid vaccination and turned out to be truthful and useful? I'm really curious because I've never heard of this in my personal information bubble, despite trying to widen it as much as I can.

Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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I've used DDG as my main search engine for about 4 years now. Until recently I found I was still having to go to Google for specific queries, mainly answering coding problems. But in the last 6 months or so, Google's results have gotten so bad and DDG has continued to improve to the point where I no longer bother with !g. When I do use Google I often find myself in the strange position of not actually being able to f…

> But in the last 6 months or so, Google's results have gotten so bad and DDG has continued to improve to the point where I no longer bother with !g.

One place that still consistently gives me trouble is Stack Overflow. More often than not, I DDG my search, get two SO links, one irrelevant and the other bad, repeat the search with "!g" and get a half-dozen SO links, 3-4 of which are relevant, and 1-2 of which are good.

Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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I've used DDG as my main search engine for about 4 years now. Until recently I found I was still having to go to Google for specific queries, mainly answering coding problems. But in the last 6 months or so, Google's results have gotten so bad and DDG has continued to improve to the point where I no longer bother with !g. When I do use Google I often find myself in the strange position of not actually being able to f…

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Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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DDG may not be the best if you want to avoid political meddling. I switched to Brave after https://web.archive.org/web/20220831110219/https://twitter.c...

I get so tired of seeing yegg raked over the coals for this one. A search engine by definition takes an editorial stance on things. They take in all of the internet and decide what to present to users. For a search engine to take no editorial position is to yield the floor to whoever can best game the system, and a propaganda machine like Russia's is absolutely capable of exploiting a search engine that doesn't proac…

it is not a search engine's job to filter their results based on acceptable politics. the only explicit filtering out they should be doing is filtering out manipulation, explicitly illegal content, spam, fraudulent content and stuff like that. aside from that the filtering algorithm should be largely neutral and unbiased. it's not a search engine's job to refuse to answer search results because the owner finds it distasteful.

Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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I've used DDG as my main search engine for about 4 years now. Until recently I found I was still having to go to Google for specific queries, mainly answering coding problems. But in the last 6 months or so, Google's results have gotten so bad and DDG has continued to improve to the point where I no longer bother with !g. When I do use Google I often find myself in the strange position of not actually being able to f…

The main thing I still use Google for is when I want to look up offline stuff near me. DDG uses a rough location, but even if I zoom in on their maps near me it's missing a whole lot of local stores etc.

For other searches I usually try DDG first and only fall back on !g when the results are bad, and often the Google results are also bad in those cases.

Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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I somewhat agree. I don't mind if true falsehoods/spam is removed. The problem was, the "anti vax" label was applied to far too much, including things that were later found to be true. The article I was looking for was about intravascular injection of the vaccine, and its possible relation to adverse effects, which now has merit in 2023 [1]. [1] https://pure.hud.ac.uk/en/publications/inadvertent-injection...

"remains at the injection side" was one of the more blatant lies. The funniest lie was "a corona virus outbreak of a novel strain in close distance to a biolab which does experiments on corona viruses ... is without a doubt of natural origin!"

Re: Advertise on DuckDuckGo Search

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Much of the "antivax garbage" turned out to be true. In hindsight, do you still believe that censoring true but inconvenient information is morally acceptable?

It’s not inconvenient and more importantly not information. It’s annoying and not based on facts. I’d love to see any actual research done at a molecular biology lab that’d back an anti-vax fantasy. And then there’s the whole epidemiology level…
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