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Re: The new .zip TLD is going to cause some problems

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Post by chillstreem »

waboremo wrote: post #49
partiallypro wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither of those are used by general consumers on a regular basis. Those are used by people that are generally knowledgeable. I don't know why people can't wrap their head around this. .zip is used every day by people that aren't the best at understanding computer security. Massive difference.

The category of "tech literate enough to use zips but not enough to know not to blindly click links in emails and also aren't covered by their company's security policy" is a pretty niche group. Your grandpa isn't compressing zips and sending them around to family. Vast vast vaaaaast majority of people just use direct file uploads. This is going to be a problem, but not for the average folk, but rather for IT teams w…

no, but commonly used services like Google Drive often zip folder downloads automatically, so regular users have been conditioned to blindly accept .zip downloads. so even if grandpa himself doesn't know how to create a zip file, he might very well try to open a .zip link when he sees one.

Re: The new .zip TLD is going to cause some problems

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Post by thinking001001 »

There are only 24^3 possible combinations of 3-letter file extensions, 34^3 if we start mixing in numbers. And they potentially will need to be constantly available for decades to come... We should probably use more sparingly to prevent a repeat of the IPv4 situation.

Re: The new .zip TLD is going to cause some problems

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Post by bdhcuidbebe »

thinking001001 wrote: post #82

There are only 24^3 possible combinations of 3-letter file extensions, 34^3 if we start mixing in numbers. And they potentially will need to be constantly available for decades to come... We should probably use more sparingly to prevent a repeat of the IPv4 situation.

There is no 3 letter limitation of extensions in any current OS.

Re: The new .zip TLD is going to cause some problems

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Post by ddingus »

gravitronic wrote: post #11

Here's the files you requested: https://attachment.zip

Excellent! We are fortunate the current owner of that domain is as others mention chaotic good.

Side note: Dungeons and Dragons role play is a meaningful part of our culture in ways I am sometimes amazed by. I think back in wonder to campaigns run on my bed, music playing in the background on my home assembled and built, custom for my room, sound system; people imagining, sharing, interacting with a quiet fire in their eyes, all of us holding onto a shared fantasy state for all it is worth.

Who knew?

I am sure some did, but I didn't. It was counter culture back then. And it was amazing! Text adventure games hold a little of the feel and at that time were kind of a bridge between normies and our scene with magic, fantastical creatures, artifacts, stories of love, evil, conquest, treasure, discovery and all of it intoxicating.

Hell yeah!

Re: The new .zip TLD is going to cause some problems

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Post by ddingus »

Dwedit wrote: post #50
gravitronic wrote: post #11

Here's the files you requested: https://attachment.zip

Rickrolling in 2008: Boisterous Synth Music and Rick Astley Rickrolling in 2023: Video is initially paused with a full title card visible, If you attempt to play it, you get 5 seconds of an AD playing before you can manually click a Skip button, then finally the synth music comes in... Yeah, it just doesn't work anymore.

Maybe it just doesn't work as often.

My mobile setup is damn near as good as my desktop is. I got that all too familiar fill intro to groove we love to loathe same as it always was intended.

Re: The new .zip TLD is going to cause some problems

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Post by ddingus »

waboremo wrote: post #49
partiallypro wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither of those are used by general consumers on a regular basis. Those are used by people that are generally knowledgeable. I don't know why people can't wrap their head around this. .zip is used every day by people that aren't the best at understanding computer security. Massive difference.

The category of "tech literate enough to use zips but not enough to know not to blindly click links in emails and also aren't covered by their company's security policy" is a pretty niche group. Your grandpa isn't compressing zips and sending them around to family. Vast vast vaaaaast majority of people just use direct file uploads. This is going to be a problem, but not for the average folk, but rather for IT teams w…

My co-founder will have trouble with this, as would several others.

Over the years, I have held enough varied and deep IT and development roles to warrant volunteer mentoring aimed at combating this kind of thing. My experience says the group of people hit by this is larger than many of us would expect.

My number one favorite approach is to share some stories and get others to do the same to get that convo up and running. Then set that baseline rule: if you were not expecting it, don't open it and or send it to me.

I get a few a month and from competent people.

Fact is we are often working hard with a lot on our minds. And then the slip happens. It is that momentary relaxing of discipline and hello!

"I should know better."

Re: The new .zip TLD is going to cause some problems

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Post by [deleted] »

waboremo wrote: post #49
partiallypro wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither of those are used by general consumers on a regular basis. Those are used by people that are generally knowledgeable. I don't know why people can't wrap their head around this. .zip is used every day by people that aren't the best at understanding computer security. Massive difference.

The category of "tech literate enough to use zips but not enough to know not to blindly click links in emails and also aren't covered by their company's security policy" is a pretty niche group. Your grandpa isn't compressing zips and sending them around to family. Vast vast vaaaaast majority of people just use direct file uploads. This is going to be a problem, but not for the average folk, but rather for IT teams w…

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Re: The new .zip TLD is going to cause some problems

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Post by partiallypro »

waboremo wrote: post #49
partiallypro wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Neither of those are used by general consumers on a regular basis. Those are used by people that are generally knowledgeable. I don't know why people can't wrap their head around this. .zip is used every day by people that aren't the best at understanding computer security. Massive difference.

The category of "tech literate enough to use zips but not enough to know not to blindly click links in emails and also aren't covered by their company's security policy" is a pretty niche group. Your grandpa isn't compressing zips and sending them around to family. Vast vast vaaaaast majority of people just use direct file uploads. This is going to be a problem, but not for the average folk, but rather for IT teams w…

> The category of "tech literate enough to use zips but not enough to know not to blindly click links in emails and also aren't covered by their company's security policy" is a pretty niche group.

As someone that has worked on a support desk in my youth, I can assure you that this is not true. I've seen 20-year-olds open bad attachments or fall for password reset phishing. A new one is a texting scam from your manager, etc asking you to do them a favor. Scammers are pretty good at what they do (even if it seems obvious to us), that's why the US is scammed out of billions a year. The new TLD is absolutely going to get people scammed. It might not be on a nightmarish level, but it's going to happen.

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