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Google I/O 2023

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Re: Google I/O 2023

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This I/O is pretty important, IMO, as Google's reputation for being the best cloud for data science is on the line with ChatGPT eating their AI position and BigQuery's waning developer pull. Data is a large driver for companies to use Google Cloud, and without that they're in big trouble, IMO. Hopefully this I/O gives folks more compelling reasons to use Google Cloud.

Why would we hope that?

Better products and competition is good for the consumer.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

I'm not an Apple follower, what innovation have they produced in the last 5+ years that the sibling comments deride Google for? I would argue the TPU is far more interesting than the M1, other than that, is it not just marginal improvements on existing products?

Re: Google I/O 2023

#83

I'm betting they'll be integrating Bard into smartphones and Chrome ASAP. The way Bing got added into SwiftKey is pretty awesome, but being able to interact with Bard the same way phones currently interact with the gAssistant would be a huge boon for usability and increasing interaction with it, assuming that's something Google wants to increase.

I'm still of the opinion that just swapping current phone assistants with LLMs is naive and bad. For one thing, they need to make sure they don't break current functionality, like for setting timers and reminders, and and doing math calculations (which LLMs are not good at unless you get it to pass the query off to a dedicated calculator like Wolfram Alpha), etc. But more importantly, when you use something like ChatGPT through the web interface there's a bunch of warning labels all over to remind you "this thing will make up information."

For something with such an easily-accessible interface that's baked-in at an OS level, I think a fail state of "sorry, I don't know how to help with that" is better than stating a bunch of false information as fact.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).

Heh, yours and other comments here disparaging I/O as "business" or "corporate" talk these days come across as quite ignorant - and I don't mean this in a nasty way, more in a literal way. It seems perhaps you're missing the fact there are many different styles of talks for many audiences. At every I/O there is a "keynote" and a "developer keynote", and similarly there are business / product talks and developer-focus…

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Re: Google I/O 2023

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A reputable leaker said the Pixel Fold will be priced identically to the Samsung Fold 4: https://twitter.com/jon_prosser/status/1648009519878774799 Factoring in all the discounts and incentives that Samsung tends to do, the Pixel may be more expensive in practice. That's bold considering it has pretty middle-of-the-road specs, it's using the Tensor G2 SOC that launched last year and wasn't the best Android SOC even t…

Samsung probably had a word then. Pixels normally are very generously priced, especially outside the US compared to Apple.

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Re: Google I/O 2023

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I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

I’ll be more interested in Google’s ML when they use it as a competent spam filter for Gmail. As it stands the false positives and false negatives are baffling. Maybe it’s unfair but to me that directly reflects their ML abilities

Re: Google I/O 2023

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I was very enthusiastic about Google I/O in the past (around the year 2010). Full of nice tech talks; I learned a lot. These years, I couldn't care less. It's all business talk. I guess developers are not the target audience anymore (and for newcomers, perhaps the "I/O" may be misleading).

Heh, yours and other comments here disparaging I/O as "business" or "corporate" talk these days come across as quite ignorant - and I don't mean this in a nasty way, more in a literal way. It seems perhaps you're missing the fact there are many different styles of talks for many audiences. At every I/O there is a "keynote" and a "developer keynote", and similarly there are business / product talks and developer-focus…

Really disappointed that most replies to this comment are just people attacking the person.

Re: Google I/O 2023

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post #64

I find it interesting the sentiment in the comments... Yesterday we had an Apple post where everyone was losing their minds all day about Final Cut Pro on iPad (which in my opinion as a Software Engineer is the most boring thing I’ve had to read all week). Today we have probably a massive lineup of a bunch of new AI features to be announced for products most of us use on the regular, or could use as devs, and 90% of…

I’ll be more interested in Google’s ML when they use it as a competent spam filter for Gmail. As it stands the false positives and false negatives are baffling. Maybe it’s unfair but to me that directly reflects their ML abilities

I'm not denying your experience, but I have almost zero problems with the Gmail spam filter. Never false negatives and almost never false positives. I wonder why different users have different experiences with this?

Re: Google I/O 2023

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No problem! My team is a small subset of engineers in a 10yo+ startup, and the organisation chose to go all in on many Google services long before any of us joined the company. I have my issues with Google and some of their services but the GP stands out as an odd comment to me because it's at odds with my own experience of keeping up with I/O talks.

Is it still a startup after a decade? Isn’t it just a company at that point.

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Re: Google I/O 2023

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Heh, yours and other comments here disparaging I/O as "business" or "corporate" talk these days come across as quite ignorant - and I don't mean this in a nasty way, more in a literal way. It seems perhaps you're missing the fact there are many different styles of talks for many audiences. At every I/O there is a "keynote" and a "developer keynote", and similarly there are business / product talks and developer-focus…

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Why so snarky?
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