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I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

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Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

#81
Thank you, Google, for dropping support on your OnHub products. I was able to pick up a few, cheaply, from your angry users.

I haven't bought a single home device from Google and have no desire to. But Google's utter lack of direction in this department means I now have 3 decent pieces of hardware running OpenWRT. Thanks again! ;-)

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

#82
> I believe in a future where homes are connected, smarter, and automated enough not to require switches (...)

An average switch can work probably more than an average human, not requires any king-for-a-day with their blessed updates and even continues to work when the supplier stops his business. This article maybe should be not about Google but about any IoT because you can do all kinds of automatization with the power supply to your 120V/230V stuff just on your DIN rail on your switchboard and you know what? Stuff on DIN rail will continue its work even if your counry will be invaded by Ruscists with problems such as rolling blackouts, bad Internet connection, or if your location considered to be under some embargo, or even if the master of the home has been killed and somebody (such as certified electrician) must to figure out how this automatization works (I mean that no electrician can do anything to your switchboard if there are no switches).

> The aforementioned update on the Lenovo Smart Display nerfed the one thing I used it most for — streaming web video content in the kitchen.

Why to use this walled-garden approach? You can use use any upto 15yo laptop on x86 architecture with some free and open source OS, or you can use any non-Smart display with Raspberry-like computer which obviously is going to serve you as long as Raspberry's video coprocessor will keep supporting actual Youtube's video codec.

> I struggle to understand what Google is thinking; the upgrade cycle for a security system should be measured in ten-plus years, if not more.

What an ugly lie! Security systems should be shaped in such a way that no guy except you has an access to a root.

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

#83

In this thread: people invest time into a free product and then complain that they get rugged.

How are the devices Google is selling “free”? The backend services supporting them were bundled as features of the device and are part of why people paid money for the devices.

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

#84

What are the open, easy to install and use, and sustainable alternatives? It feels like enough work has been done on the margins of replicating some of the capabilities of Alexa and Google Nest hardware and software, but it’s not packaged up in an accessible way for the mass-market?

I've been running home assistant for years now.

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

#86
This sort of shit is the reason they will never get me to use their passkey implementation.

The sooner there's a truly portable open source offline version of passkeys I'm all in. Until then I'm sticking with my password manager.

I do feel the only thing you can really trust from Google are the things that make them money. Chrome, and any software that allows them to hook into for advertising money. It makes me worry about go, dart, and flutter. Though the latter two include analytics which you need to disable.

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

#87

For me this is also a major failure of poor competition policy. If Google's smart home system were an independent company, it would love or die by its ability to do its job. But Nest can just piggy back on Google's brand power.

As Lily Tomlin used to say in her comedy skits: “We don’t care. We don’t have to. We’re the phone company!”

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

#88
I've been really happy with a Hubitat Elevation[1], controlling misc z-wave and zigbee devices. I've had mine for over three years and it continues to get updates[2].

Nearly every device I've considered has had either a provided or community written driver[3] available.

1: https://hubitat.com/ 2: https://community.hubitat.com/t/release-2-3-5-available/1133... 3: https://community.hubitat.com/t/custom-device-drivers-wiki

Re: I'm never investing in Google's smart home ecosystem again

#90
post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a Google Hub and 2 Minis , would I be able to repurpose them for HA or do I have to start from scratch...? If they can't be reused, I might as well stick to Google until they get bricked (which I'm sure will happen at some point).

Currently, no, but HA will integrate with them and expose any devices to Google’s ecosystem (even if they don’t natively support that). You can also use devices with a screen as dashboards for HA.

I do use Google minis with HA and can voice activate lights, shutters etc.
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