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Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Kiss of death for Gitlab? A temporary bump in profits while being technically assimilated by Google due to a significant portion of profits being directly dependent on Google? Now people who don't want to contribute to Microsoft training data sets on Github and escaped to Gitlab will be forced to contribute to Google's training data or forced to migrate elsewhere.

There's no point in migrating to avoid ai training, OpenAI is going to train on every line of code out there, no matter which platform.

I disagree, one can make it difficult to data scrappers.

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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Feels like AI is prompting some sort of tech consolidation pattern getting ready for the "next phase". But there are risks associated with an ever-narrowing set of tech providers, e.g., if this goes in the direction of enhancing lock-in and/or your tech provider becoming your competitor. The more general (and in some sense gratuitous and unnecessary) risk is the carte-blanche of big tech to pursue any and all busines…

> Feels like AI is prompting..

Pun intended?

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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post #51
post #18

Maybe GCP, Azure and AWS could pull together the text to train a language model to tell us how to deal with their fucking stupid UIs and arcane terminology. I dread having to use their cloud portals. How do you find a VM by IP address in Azure? that kind of thing.

First, their UI and UX are very different. Azure is by far the worst (as in pretty much all categories) - even their docs suck, with random broken links (even the links to switch the language of the exemple code) and very weird naming schemes, let alone the actual cloud UI. GCP and AWS are quite decent (for AWS you need to know a bit about how they organise things or use the search, but still). > How do you find a VM…

>> How do you find a VM by IP address in Azure?

> The point is that you probably don't need to/shouldn't. IPs are ephemeral, don't matter and can easily change, and shouldn't be used for anything like identity.

Hi, the ip 1.2.3.4 seems to be one of our VMs, and it's relaying spam. Which vm is it?

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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I think my productivity would 2x or 3x if gitlab would work on fixing issues with core features such as task planning. There's a lot of minimum viable features that never got improved, especially for those of us on the premium tier. AI sound cool but at this point I'm just expecting another half baked feature that checks boxes for executives to justify purchasing it.

I fear this is going to be the cause of the slow death of gitlab. They over-promised on far too many features and have underdelivered with many half baked products and MVPs that have been left to rot. I like the product and the company but they clearly tried to do too much in order to gain market share. GitHub needs competition so it would be great for GitLab to thrive, but the state of the product worries me.

The recent Shopify memo re "Main Quests" and "Side Quests" applies.

I'm hopeful GitLab can turn it around, but at this point it feels like GitLab might be going the way of Jira.

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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I think my productivity would 2x or 3x if gitlab would work on fixing issues with core features such as task planning. There's a lot of minimum viable features that never got improved, especially for those of us on the premium tier. AI sound cool but at this point I'm just expecting another half baked feature that checks boxes for executives to justify purchasing it.

> core features such as task planning.

Or core features such as actual git reliably working well. Yesterday all my pulls/pushes were slow - I timed one push at over 2 minutes!

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does repo being on github have to do with copilot? Free copilot licenses for OSS?

Copilot, Issues and Actions, all symptoms that GitHub is forging ahead and building features that are well thought out and well integrated. Ironically, CI/CD and issues being well integrated were the reasons we switched to GitLab in the first place. But since then we stopped using issues. CoPilot X will help write PR descriptions, some code review, etc. All those things are on top of just hosting the repo.

> Ironically, CI/CD and issues being well integrated were the reasons we switched to GitLab in the first place. But since then we stopped using issues.

Hah, yes. Do you have any idea how jarring it is to cheer for migrating issues from gitlab to jira? But it turns out that ugly but feature complete is better than easy to work with and missing key features (ever tried searching for something in issue comments? To say nothing of high level task tracking (management wants to know what blockers we have in this multi-step 23-item epic)).

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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> GitLab plans to improve its customers' DevSecOps workflow efficiency by 10x, by applying AI-assisted workflows I'm also planning to improve my fitness by 10x from tomorrow. Using AI obviously! But today let me eat this pizza

You have the right level of cynicism, but you should instead direct it at the field of DevSecOps as a whole.

98% of "SecOps" is utterly pointless boxchecking for ass-covering security certifications which waste immense amounts of time and enforce nothing meaningful. You could ABSOLUTELY 10x workflow efficiency there by plumbing the codebase for questions like:

"What are all the OSS libraries you use, and the licenses?"

"What's your test coverage?"

"Do you encrypt your passwords at rest?"

"Are your S3 buckets encrypted?"

instead of wasting developer time answering questionaires nobody reads.

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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post #80

I think my productivity would 2x or 3x if gitlab would work on fixing issues with core features such as task planning. There's a lot of minimum viable features that never got improved, especially for those of us on the premium tier. AI sound cool but at this point I'm just expecting another half baked feature that checks boxes for executives to justify purchasing it.

Yup, it's "funny" that even basic functionality doesn't work as expected: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/350662 I encounter this issue pretty often and it makes code review experience miserable. It's not blocking any work, but it is frustrating enough that for any new project I would try to avoid using Gitlab

And what a typical issue that is. Opened a year ago, initially some requests for internal clarification that went nowhere, plans to be fixed by an upcoming release, then loads of metadata and bot comments with minimal actual work happening, followed by pushing back the release they want to fix it in, followed by reducing its priority, deciding that actually they don't need to fix it and can just throw it on the backlog, more comments about users being affected, and then today a comment that it got brought up in a discussion here:)

Re: Gitlab and Google Cloud Partner to Expand AI-Assisted Capabilities

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post #25

> GitLab is working with Google Cloud because of its strong commitment to privacy Right. I guess they'll also deal with Qualcomm for their strong commitment to openness, and Russia for its strong commitment to democracy.

Yeah, because the US is such a beacon to the "democracy".
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