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Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there no hedging instruments for something like this?

Yes, you can buy an interest rate swap. But I don't know how readily available they are to small businesses.

I think you can accomplish interest rate hedging with Eurodollar (apparently now SOFR) futures contracts which are traded on open markets? But I agree with the other poster that OP should find a finance person.

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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This shows a level of confidence in the banking sector that I find questionable. Risks associated with raising bond interest rates were one of largest factors in the recent bank failures. Surely more bank failures would be seen as worse for the economy than inflation. If more, larger banks fail in the next twelve months then the Federal Reserve will be sheepish about raising interest rates for the next hundred years.…

> This shows a level of confidence in the banking sector that I find questionable.

No, it doesn't.

Protecting the banking sector isn't part of the monetary policy setting mandate.

> Risks associated with raising bond interest rates were one of largest factors in the recent bank failures. Surely more bank failures would be seen as worse for the economy than inflation.

No, in terms of the Fed mandate, they are not. More business failures, including of banks, are a normal and expected cost of contractionary monetary policy.

> If more, larger banks fail in the next twelve months then the Federal Reserve will be sheepish about raising interest rates for the next hundred years.

They weren’t for the next hundred years after the wave of major banks that failed or needed intervention to avoid failure in the 2007 crisis, obviously, or after the huge number of bank failures during the high rate regime in the 1980s, so...probably not.

> In inflation stays high then it seems likely the Federal Reserve will keep pushing those interest rates higher and higher until something breaks and we enter crisis mode.

Surez if inflation (which is already low but has not stayed that way for as long as the Fed would like) were to bounce back up so the 12-month trailing rate stayed high rather than continuing to settle back to normal, that would be the Fed response. No reason to think that’s likely.

> Personally, I'd like to see Congress take more action to reduce inflation

That, this late in the game, would be a very good way to guarantee an overshoot the opposite way we just did, which would be worse than leaving the foot on the economic gas too long was.

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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Just a perspective to share from someone trying to buy property for a small business(since most people think about it from a residential POV). Unlike residential mortgages, corporate loans are not fixed interest rates. They are all adjustable. What in 2020 seems financially sound, becomes impossible a few years later. I can't imagine how other companies do this, do you just make sure your business can handle 12% inte…

Fun fact'! 30-year fixed rate mortgages is a uniquely American thing. Most other countries are adjustable rate mortgages, even for boring primary residential loans.

In France it's not. And I have a 25yr fixed CHF loan which is great imho

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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Lots of uncertainty in the press conference following the interest rate announcement. Seems like the Fed is preparing for the possibility of more restrictive actions in the future, but is waiting for more data to see if such actions are needed. I expect the market to place a lot more weight on data released over the next few weeks.

aka they might have to do 1 or 2 .25bps hikes within the next 6-12 months that originally weren’t telegraphed expectation wise, so stock market will need to moderately correct to the new balance of “expected versus actual”?

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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post #80

Just a perspective to share from someone trying to buy property for a small business(since most people think about it from a residential POV). Unlike residential mortgages, corporate loans are not fixed interest rates. They are all adjustable. What in 2020 seems financially sound, becomes impossible a few years later. I can't imagine how other companies do this, do you just make sure your business can handle 12% inte…

Fun fact'! 30-year fixed rate mortgages is a uniquely American thing. Most other countries are adjustable rate mortgages, even for boring primary residential loans.

Yeah and things go bad every 10 years in those countries when they have a currency crisis

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A de-dollariztion and a move to what? Yuan? Ruble? Bitcoin? Sure countries might be unhappy with the dollar as of late, but there really is no serious competitor. It's like being upset with the Ritz and threatening them with moving your stay to the Comfort Inn.

If people start hating the Ritz's policies and prices someone will eventually build a comparable competing hotel, a ready to go alternative doesn't have to already exist. We've created incentives for alternatives to the dollar to spring up, we need to either pray to God they somehow don't or stop incentivizing the alternatives.

Sure just copy America's economy, amazing no other country thought of that!

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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Lots of smoke in the comments here. The Fed is doing what needs to create relative stability. Uncomfortable, but real. Demand is outstripping supply and prices are going up. The least painful option is raising interest rates. Alternatives are hyperinflation, (very bad), or various price fixing schemes (which have literally never worked despite many attempts and are even worse in the ultimate outcomes). There are lots…

Raising rates is a very poor instrument for fixing supply-driven inflation. Even if it forces suppliers to temporarily lower their prices, as soon as rates are lowered again and economic activity picks back up and demand returns, inflation will return with a vengeance too. Destroying demand does nothing to fix the supply chain problems behind current inflation (which you already mentioned: war, energy, deglobalisation, china lockdowns etc). It’s a pointless, painful exercise and it’s probably being done by the fed only to maintain the appearance of fulfilling their expected role. The truth is the fed is powerless and cannot fix the problem.

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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post #78

Just a perspective to share from someone trying to buy property for a small business(since most people think about it from a residential POV). Unlike residential mortgages, corporate loans are not fixed interest rates. They are all adjustable. What in 2020 seems financially sound, becomes impossible a few years later. I can't imagine how other companies do this, do you just make sure your business can handle 12% inte…

> 12% interest rates just incase a politician decides to give away free money for a few years? High interest rates = "giving away free money"? I thought low interest rates was giving away money?

My interpretation of what the GP is saying is that a politician might give away free money, causing the Fed to react by setting interest rates at 12% to prevent inflation. Suppressing interest rates would be a different form of free money.

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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This shows a level of confidence in the banking sector that I find questionable. Risks associated with raising bond interest rates were one of largest factors in the recent bank failures. Surely more bank failures would be seen as worse for the economy than inflation. If more, larger banks fail in the next twelve months then the Federal Reserve will be sheepish about raising interest rates for the next hundred years.…

> "...the Federal Reserve will keep pushing those interest rates higher and higher..." They really can't raise interest rates much above 5%, this follows straightforwardly from observing how much of the national budget is consumed by debt service as a function of the interest rate. (Higher rate = larger fraction of budget allocated to debt service, obviously.) If they go above five-ish percent, this implies that they…

> They really can't raise interest rates much above 5%

They really can.

> this follows straightforwardly from observing how much of the national budget is consumed by debt service as a function of the interest rate.

Decoupling monetary policy decisions from that kind of fiscal concern is a substantial part of the reason for an independent central bank setting monetary policy.

> If they go above five-ish percent, this implies that they'll need to either A) raise taxes to a level that would likely inspire mutiny, B) greatly reduce borderline-impossible-to-cut parts of the budget such as the military industrial complex + welfare spending broadly construed, C) increase productivity by a lot, D) monetize the debt or E) default on the debt.

Note that the first “they” is the Federal Reserve and all the other “theys” refer to Congress.

Also, while government borrowing costs tend to move in roughly the same direction as the fed funds rate, they very much aren’t the same thing and can be very widely separated.

Re: Federal Reserve pushes interest rates above 5% for first time since 2007

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Just a perspective to share from someone trying to buy property for a small business(since most people think about it from a residential POV). Unlike residential mortgages, corporate loans are not fixed interest rates. They are all adjustable. What in 2020 seems financially sound, becomes impossible a few years later. I can't imagine how other companies do this, do you just make sure your business can handle 12% inte…

> Do I need to assume a 15% fed reserve interest rate + the 2-4% the bank piles on? Heck, 15% might be low, you never know.

If you do make this assumption, then your present value of the real estate will ensure you always get outbid by someone with looser expectations. The conservatism of the market is set at the ability to leverage by the lunatics at the margin.

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