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Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by bitL »

orev wrote: post #51
ActorNightly wrote: post #21

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Its even simpler. Exercise (specifically, aerobic type) is the main thing you need. A good exercise regime gives you a lot of leeway in the diet aspect especially if you don't overeat (since your caloric burn will be high enough on the regular to not have to deal with issues like too much carbs). It also helps you sleep as you get tired and can fall asleep easier, and reduces stress levels, which is very important in…

You can’t outrun a bad diet. It takes a lot of exercise to burn off excess calories, and virtually no effort to simply not consume them. I understand that health is more than just calories, and you can come to the same conclusion about other bad things like trans fats, alcohol, etc. If someone had to choose only one thing to do for health, a healthy diet is far more important than exercise.

Switching to carnivore diet gives you 2lb/1kg weight loss a week without any exercise and any feeling of hunger or weakness (assuming you are overweight).

Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by QuercusMax »

orev wrote: post #51
ActorNightly wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its even simpler. Exercise (specifically, aerobic type) is the main thing you need. A good exercise regime gives you a lot of leeway in the diet aspect especially if you don't overeat (since your caloric burn will be high enough on the regular to not have to deal with issues like too much carbs). It also helps you sleep as you get tired and can fall asleep easier, and reduces stress levels, which is very important in…

You can’t outrun a bad diet. It takes a lot of exercise to burn off excess calories, and virtually no effort to simply not consume them. I understand that health is more than just calories, and you can come to the same conclusion about other bad things like trans fats, alcohol, etc. If someone had to choose only one thing to do for health, a healthy diet is far more important than exercise.

This is only true to a point. When I was cycling 20 miles 5x per week, I literally couldn't eat enough to avoid losing weight. (This was not a problem, I've never been thin.)

Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by Silverback_VII »

Xeoncross wrote: post #74
Waterluvian wrote: post #66

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And you don't need a gym membership or expensive equipment or any training for exercise. Even a tiny amount can make a huge difference. If you're currently doing no exercise, try to walk five minutes at lunch time each day. Just five minutes. And when that's trivial to do, make it 10 minutes. Try to keep increasing this over the year. No rush. Take your time. But try to make it a habit. Even if some days it's back do…

A lot of people don't realize that muscle use helps pump blood. Movement is important for helping circulation.

Yeah but a 15min walk will get you nowhere.

Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by cowmoo728 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #66
lockhouse wrote: post #4

Diet, exercise, enough sleep, and a good social support structure are pretty much the keys to good health in general. The fact that we have so many health issues in western society are because its so easy to neglect these things.

And you don't need a gym membership or expensive equipment or any training for exercise. Even a tiny amount can make a huge difference. If you're currently doing no exercise, try to walk five minutes at lunch time each day. Just five minutes. And when that's trivial to do, make it 10 minutes. Try to keep increasing this over the year. No rush. Take your time. But try to make it a habit. Even if some days it's back do…

Or, if you're working in a multi story office or apartment, take the stairs instead of the elevator. It seems silly but it actually makes a big difference to go from mostly sedentary to walking up stairs.

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mft_ wrote: post #57
ActorNightly wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its even simpler. Exercise (specifically, aerobic type) is the main thing you need. A good exercise regime gives you a lot of leeway in the diet aspect especially if you don't overeat (since your caloric burn will be high enough on the regular to not have to deal with issues like too much carbs). It also helps you sleep as you get tired and can fall asleep easier, and reduces stress levels, which is very important in…

I'm not disagreeing that aerobic exercise is important and beneficial, but to add: there is also data correlating other exercise behaviours (stretching, strength training) with positive health and longevity outcomes. Also, quite significant benefits can be achieved via HIIT, which is anything but aerobic.

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Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by birdyrooster »

stainablesteel wrote: post #45

im not surprised i've always opposed the "you're sick therefore you should rest" advice, your lymph nodes are mechanical pumps, maybe you shouldn't go run 10 miles or do heavy lifting but definitely walk around or ride a bike if you feel up to it

always opposing this advice is draconian and incorrect because resting is the correct advice for many ailments

Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by buu700 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #66
lockhouse wrote: post #4

Diet, exercise, enough sleep, and a good social support structure are pretty much the keys to good health in general. The fact that we have so many health issues in western society are because its so easy to neglect these things.

And you don't need a gym membership or expensive equipment or any training for exercise. Even a tiny amount can make a huge difference. If you're currently doing no exercise, try to walk five minutes at lunch time each day. Just five minutes. And when that's trivial to do, make it 10 minutes. Try to keep increasing this over the year. No rush. Take your time. But try to make it a habit. Even if some days it's back do…

Also, carry a backpack: https://www.goruck.com/pages/what-is-rucking

I generally carry a small EDC backpack anyway for convenience and hydration, but having that 10 - 15 lbs on my back also adds a little bit of extra workout to my walks. Sometimes I'll put my backpack inside a bigger backpack with a few gallons of water or a couple 25lb plates added, which starts to feel like moderate intensity squatting or deadlifting (especially when it involves hills or stairs).

Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by minsight »

bradlys wrote: post #50
rixary wrote: post #9

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Little weird to reply with a specific incident. I didn’t see anywhere this was broadcasted as a cure.

The top comment is currently saying that diet, exercise, and a good social network are basically a cure-all to all issues in western society. I'm being a bit reductive but so is the comment.

There is a wide gulf between "pretty much the keys to good health in general" and "a cure-all to all issues in western society"

Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by cowmoo728 »

orev wrote: post #51
ActorNightly wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its even simpler. Exercise (specifically, aerobic type) is the main thing you need. A good exercise regime gives you a lot of leeway in the diet aspect especially if you don't overeat (since your caloric burn will be high enough on the regular to not have to deal with issues like too much carbs). It also helps you sleep as you get tired and can fall asleep easier, and reduces stress levels, which is very important in…

You can’t outrun a bad diet. It takes a lot of exercise to burn off excess calories, and virtually no effort to simply not consume them. I understand that health is more than just calories, and you can come to the same conclusion about other bad things like trans fats, alcohol, etc. If someone had to choose only one thing to do for health, a healthy diet is far more important than exercise.

Exercise moderates negative feelings and hormones and often causes people to maintain a better sleep and diet routine. Everything in life becomes easier with a light/moderate regular exercise routine. It's inseparable from diet.

Re: Exercise increases number of immune cells in cancer patients

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Post by Findecanor »

Interesting. I'm about to start chemotherapy in a month or so, and I've been told that I'm supposed to get it injected while pedalling on an exercise bike. Could it be for the same reason as mentioned in the article: better distribution of the cancer-fighting thing to where the cancer is?
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