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Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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Re: Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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> debased by money printing Why is this a bad thing? This is repeated by the crypto people as some kind of root of all evil, and it puzzles me. I see monetary policy - including the ability of devaluing a currency - as a powerful tool central banks have to keep the economy working. I fail to see how "hard money", which normally comes peppered with some vague desire for a deflationary economy as desirable. In my view…

Would you be annoyed if you owned shares of a company and the company prints new shares to dilute the value of your holdings?

Shares in a company is not currency. It's not supposed to be used as currency. It is not a means of exchange.

And companies sometimes dilute the value of shares. It's part of the risk in investing in a company.

Re: Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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I feel exactly the opposite- “At some point there won't be any more suckers left. That's when banking will really collapse.” The news every day sends the message more urgently that a global hard money that can never be debased by money printing and that is free from the whims of governments and dictators is sorely needed.

But for that, general population to be able (and willing!) to manage secret keys properly is sorely needed.

This is never going to happen, and nor should it. Any system that you can lose your entire life savings without any recourse by forgetting, revealing, or being hit by a wrench, for one number - is irreparably flawed and extremely unsuitable.

Re: Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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post #21

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I feel exactly the opposite- “At some point there won't be any more suckers left. That's when banking will really collapse.” The news every day sends the message more urgently that a global hard money that can never be debased by money printing and that is free from the whims of governments and dictators is sorely needed.

But for that, general population to be able (and willing!) to manage secret keys properly is sorely needed.

Yes, handling private keys is very inconvenient. I also can’t imagine my mother (although rather tech-savy for her age) handling all her financials with crypto wallets.

However, one of the next Ethereum upgrades (ERC-4337) will make it possible to safely recover wallets without a key seed phrase. Its implications seems to be huge but I am not deep enough into it to explain how exactly it is going to work. Perhaps somebody more competent than me can elaborate on that.

https://beincrypto.com/learn/erc-4337/

Re: Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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Anecdotal stories are not evidence. Links?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60383385.amp

Soo... Not "the wrong opinion" but disrupting major infrastructure. Im not sure I agree with it, but it's not the laissez-faire process you are implying. It's also pretty trivial to see how they can equally do the same with cryptocurrencies through the major exchanges, given the hurdles or actually using your crypto outside them

Re: Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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At some point there won't be any more suckers left. That's when crypto will really collapse.

The flaw here was in a dependency introduced by targeting WASM, and could apply to any project of any kind relying on random number generation for a cryptographic purpose. It is not a "crypto-currency" specific problem.

You don't think that your bank would get your money back if this happened to them?

Re: Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> debased by money printing Why is this a bad thing? This is repeated by the crypto people as some kind of root of all evil, and it puzzles me. I see monetary policy - including the ability of devaluing a currency - as a powerful tool central banks have to keep the economy working. I fail to see how "hard money", which normally comes peppered with some vague desire for a deflationary economy as desirable. In my view…

Would you be annoyed if you owned shares of a company and the company prints new shares to dilute the value of your holdings?

Why would I?

Either the company's board and leadership are trustworthy (i.e. are acting in the best interest of all, not just majority or voting, shareholders), in which case they'll have carefully weighed the cost (dilution) and benefits (additional capital) of issuing new shares.

Or they aren't – in which case dilution is one of many problems and it's questionable why I'd want to continue owning shares in that company.

Re: Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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Why anyone would hold any significant amount in a chrome extension is beyond my understanding. Even if you’re using Metamask, use it in hybrid mode with a Ledger.

Because the secure options are less convenient. I mean a yubikey is less convenient because it's another physical device you shouldn't forget to put in your device and take out / with you at all times, etc.

Re: Funds of every Trust Wallet browser extension could have been stolen

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That kind of argument can be applied to any value-based systems. s/crypto/ with /banks/, /religion/, /houses/. The real question is how big the risk is relative to inflation, central banks collapses, bank runs and all other types of institutional risks.

That kind of argument can be applied to any value-based systems. s/crypto/ with /banks/, /religion/, /houses/. No. False equivalence. The other examples have a long history of applications that add value to people's lives (as well as disbenefits depending on your viewpoint and ideology). Crypto-currency has never yet demonstrated any significant value to normal people, though plenty of the latter.

I believe that is wrong. If you keep your money as cash or in a bank deposit then you lose several percents every year because Western governments maintain a certain inflation rate. But inflation is basically stealing from everyone who has cash or bank deposits. You had 100 dollars and next year they become equivalent to 98 dollars.

Cryptocurrency is different. No government is able to steal your Bitcoins by printing some more colored paper.

Yes today there are issues with volatility, but conceptually cryptocurrency is better than fiat money for the reason written above.

But if you like getting robbed every year then of course continue using fiat money.

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